Risking the draft for the big ticket

Easier said than done. I'd say just about every team in the league would like to move into the top 4 draft spots if they had the opportunity.

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As I look through my Rocket goggles....that looks like a good trade.

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That looks like a pretty good deal, but I'd want to pull back the 23rd pick and try for someone like Kirk Haston, the kid from Indiana.

With the second round pick, we could probably grab Terrance Morris.

Seems like 3 #1 picks for the #4 pick when the Top Ten probably are pretty interchangeable is a high price.

Complete that idea as an exchange of Artest plus Round Two pick for Cato.

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Time is a great teacher-- only problem is it kills all its pupils.

 

As a good rule of thumb, if you would not do something, then a GM will definately not do it. I would not trade the number 4, 29, and Artest for Cato and three mid to late first rounders. Would you?

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If I had a lameass roster like Chicago's, I would give it strong cosideration. The four pick is especially valuable if the guy you really want falls to that slot. If they see it happening that way, they will and should keep the pick.

What if Curry, Brown, and Griffin go 1-2-3. Will Battier help them that much more than having say Cato, Loren Woods, Omar Cook, and S Hunter (or comparable players-- you pick)?

But it seems that this draft could go a number of ways because of the lack of clarity about who will be good. It's going to depend on who is picking where. The order of the drafting will affect the order of the draftees if you get my drift.

However, the Bulls are a couple of years away from getting back into the playoffs and could more seriously use an infusiion of talent than the Rockets need. Thus the trade boils down to a 4 (Cato,1,1,1) for 2 (1 and Artest) and 1/2 (2) trade. The second round pick being the half because of a lack of guaranteed contract etc.

Personally I hope the Rockets keep at least 2 picks and I'd be happy to keep all 3. We only have 5-6 guys under contract and only want maybe 9 back from last year's roster.

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Time is a great teacher-- only problem is it kills all its pupils.

[This message has been edited by RichRocket (edited June 15, 2001).]

 

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we have a second round pick this year.


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I think Rich was suggesting we would pick up a second round pick from Chicago as part of the deal, and could use it.

No, we do not have a second round pick right now.

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I have to agree. If we were moving up to draft a franchise type player then I would do it. However, we are simply looking for a starter at number 4, 5 or 7. I would stick with the three picks and build a deep bench. We can then use the players as trade bait in the middle of the year to get a disgruntled star. There is at least one every year. I know some people say we would not have the money to sign Webber if we keep all three picks. I am starting to think we would be better off keeping our free agents. Can you imagine what type of chemistry we will have in a couple of years when our core players have had a few years to play with each other?

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Fuggetabout it

 

Chicago owes us two 2nds or one 1st rounder from the Drew trade. We gave up our secound round pick this year to Dallas in the Langhi trade.

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[This message has been edited by bigboymumu (edited June 15, 2001).]

 

Pine is right. I was using the second round pick that was conveyed in the original trade proposal. I pulled back our #23 pick so as not to over-pay.

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Time is a great teacher-- only problem is it kills all its pupils.

 

It'd be great if any of the teams drafting from #5 - #7 even consider taking all 3 of our 1st round draft picks in exchange for their one pick. If i was Chicago (at #4), i sure as heck wouldnt trade my 4th pick (a potential Kwame Brown, or Battier, or Curry, or Griffin) for three later 1st round picks.

Each year in the draft (except maybe last year's), there is probably on average 4-5 players that actually develope into anything more than a moderate role player. And they seem to always have been drafted in the top ten with the few exceptions like the Mike Finleys and the Sprewells that fall dramatically. Take a look at the past drafts on NBADRAFT.NET to see yourself.

We hear about how deep this draft is, but outside of the top ten picks, chances are the rest of the players are just another Collier or Bryce Drew.

Think of it this way... in 1998, we also had three first round picks. In that draft, the top ten picks included players such as Nowitzki, V. Carter, A. Jamison, Bibby,and Pierce. Why the heck would anyone take Turckan, Dickson, Bryce Drew (3 players we took with our 3 draft picks) for a chance at a star like Nowitzki, Carter, Jamison, or bibby.


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I agree with KLON.The Bulls might end up with a future superstar with the 4th pick.They could also package their 4th pick with either Fizer or Brad Miller to get veteran experience which might help them to get free agents to sign with them.

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The reason the Rockets will not draft a high school player is the want someone who can come in next year and help them get into the playoffs. They don't want to draft a guy in the top 5 and then have to wait 3 years before he is able to help out at the NBA level. Also, don't first round picks have three year contracts? By the time they blossom they are free agents and get paid the big bucks(T-Mac).

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So...who's going to come in right now and contribute from the draft? We saw what great things Collier as a rookie did last year, we sure wont have to worry about him walking out on us in 3 years like what T-Mac did.

I think basically everyone in the NBA draft now will be a 2-3 year development project. Since we're gonna be stuck with projects, i'd rather be stuck with One project with high potentials then 3 projects with lower potentials.


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