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Republicans: Trump vs New Candidate for 2020?

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Republicans: Trump vs New Candidate for 2020

  1. As of now I’m voting Trump

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    21.4%
  2. As of now I’m abstaining

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    14.3%
  3. As of now I’m voting Biden to get Trump out of office

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  4. I would vote for a new Republican candidate but not Trump

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  5. I always vote straight ticket no matter what so a new candidate doesn’t matter

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  6. I always consider each candidate and sometimes vote outside of party

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  7. I would still vote democrat even with a new red candidate. We’ve fallen too far.

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  8. I’m voting Biden because I like his podium

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  1. Andre0087

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    @jcee15 and @ROXRAN have both advocated for segregation and one is an admitted white supremacist.
     
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  2. jo mama

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    article from april, but relevant to this thread...

    https://thebulwark.com/look-what-he-makes-you-give/

    Look What He Makes You Give

    The COVID-19 crisis shows how little elite Republicans got in exchange for the soul they had to give to Donald Trump.


    A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away Republican elites claimed that they didn’t like Donald Trump very much. They didn’t support him in the primary. Many said or implied that they wouldn’t vote for him in the general election.

    But at some point each one of them reasoned that the right thing to do was to don the MAGA hat in order to ensure that Trump made good on the policy priorities they most valued.

    They acknowledged the trade-off. Trump would make them eat some **** sandwiches with the tweets and the corruption and the protectionism and the race baiting. But they’d get theirs. This was the genesis of the “But Gorsuch” meme.

    At the time, some of us asked . . . are you sure you know what’s in this sandwich?

    Today that’s now clear.

    More than 39,000 Americans are dead from a pandemic that was ignored while the president was vainly consumed with the state of the stock market and keeping the numbers down. We are confronted daily with a president utterly incapable of truthfully explaining the stakes, or calling the nation to shared sacrifice, or even merely striking a tone that allows for communal grieving.

    That elite Republicans have endorsed this horrifying display of tragic mismanagement lays bare what Trump has taken from each person who made this deal, how much of their soul he has sucked from their body.

    It’s striking how little they actually got out of the bargain.


    But what’s even more striking is that, instead of being angered at their having been being suckered by Trump, or ashamed of it, Republicans decided to accept—and even to celebrate—the parts of Trumpism that they had once regarded as the regrettable price of the exchange.


    Look what he has made them give.

    Accepting his party’s nod in Cleveland, Trump gave a dark, dispiriting, angry speech. Those who cut the deal looked both ways and cheered.

    Mounting the dais on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol on Inauguration Day, he delivered his “American Carnage” address, the least uplifting, uniting, or optimistic inaugural address on record. And yet they cheered.

    Once in office, Trump turned his rhetoric on immigration to action at the border. He ordered crackdowns on asylum seekers, separated children from their parents, and kept human beings in cages. They cheered.

    He went to Europe and insulted our NATO allies, praised Vladimir Putin, and began dismantling the post-World War II security apparatus. They cheered.


    He pushed through spending programs that blew a massive hole in our budget, grew the deficit, and sent our national debt into orbit. He passed a tax cut that overwhelmingly favored the wealthy and large corporations. And what did the Republicans, the party of fiscal responsibility and “main street” conservatism do? They cheered.


    When Trump started a trade war with China that drove up prices of consumer goods and pushed small farms into bankruptcy what did Republicans say? Trump is showing the Chinese who’s boss! When he then bailed out Big Ag and corporate farms to cover his losses, where was the GOP? Somewhere in a lonely field, kicking the dirt.


    Last summer, when Donald Trump made his “perfect phone call” to the Ukrainian president pressuring him to undertake a domestic political errand, and subsequently withholding military aid from an ally facing down the Russian bear, how did Republicans respond? They said that the president can do what he wants. That presidents do this all the time. That Joe Biden is the real crook. That no one can find Ukraine on a map.


    After being impeached for abusing his office, what did Republicans say? That it’s a witch hunt. That they’re trying to keep us down. That it’s all the media and socialist Democrats’ fault.


    As the evidence of Trump’s malfeasance mounted, what did Republicans do? They asked no questions, called no witnesses, and claimed the president was within his rights to do whatever he wants.


    In February, when it became clear that COVID-19 was a crisis and that Trump had fumbled it, what did Republicans say? It’s not as bad as everyone says. It’s the fault of the Chinese Communist Party. Let the old people die.

    And this week, when Donald Trump finally said the not-so-quiet part out loud, that he’s the president and that means he has “total” authority, as if he were a king? Where was the party of federalism and small government and the rule of law? At least this time, some of them didn’t cheer. They just insisted that the media was worse.

    The deal that Republicans made with Donald Trump was never going to be a good one.

    But with tens of thousands of people dead, the economy in shambles, and a historic crisis requiring a competent leader, do they still, in the silence of their own hearts, think, “But Gorsuch”?

    For it should no longer surprise us that Republicans have turned over the kingdom to Donald Trump.

    It is sad, though, how cheaply they gave it up.
     
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  3. gifford1967

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    Oh lordy. li'l t has laced up his clown shoes and now he's he's putting on the orange wig.

    Exhibit #1- He's calling out Biden for supporting the IRAQ WAR! lol. This is an unprecedented level of clownery.

    Exhibit #2- He claims his first priority is the economy. Consider the state of the economy when the last Republican president left office. Consider the state of the economy at the end of Trump's 1st term. I guess you can say Trump's been more efficient. It's only taken him four years to lead us into an economic meltdown, where it took Bush eight.
     
  4. jo mama

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    trump butt-kissers often talk about trump derangement syndrome (TDS), but they need to look at themselves first...look what trump has turned yall into...the GOP is now the party of...
    massive deficits
    farm subsidies
    protectionist trade policies
    anti-free trade
    pro-tariffs
    pro-russia
    anti-george w bush
    anti-iraq war
    anti-POW
    anti-checks and balances
    anti-government oversight
     
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  5. vlaurelio

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    anti science
    anti masks
    anti US soldiers
    anti truth
    anti facts
    pro corruption
    pro nepotism
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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  7. JayGoogle

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    I remember no one voted for Bush either but the dude won 2 terms...

    If you're that ashamed to admit you voted for a candidate then maybe you shouldn't vote for that candidate? Just an idea.
     
  8. CCorn

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    There are a few republicans I’d vote for over Biden.

    But this party needs a cleansing so it doesn’t matter who they run.
     
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  9. adoo

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    Trump, the socialist, has provided more gov't handouts than any POTUS, more than FDR, Ike, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Nixon, both Bushes, Clinton , Obama

    more Americans lost jobs under the Trump admin than any other POTUS

    thru his incompetence and neglect, Trump has witnessed more American deaths than WW2 and Vietnam War combined

    Traitor Trump has done nothing to deter Putin's bounties to Afghans to kill Americans
     
    #29 adoo, Jul 3, 2020
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  10. vlaurelio

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    only those who stood up against trump
     
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