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Reports on Dwight Howard: Mark Heisler vs Chris Palmer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hizzobbes, Jul 14, 2013.

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  1. hizzobbes

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    It seems as though respected veteran LA writer Mark Heisler took some issue with ESPN hack Chris Palmer's "reporting" on Dwight Howard...

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> Might as as well do your corrections now. What do you hear from that source who told you <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23D12&amp;src=hash">#D12</a> was staying with the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Lakers&amp;src=hash">#Lakers</a>?</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356295948244221953">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Has <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler">@MarkHeisler</a> been hacked?</p>&mdash; chris palmer (@ESPNChrisPalmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer/statuses/356297007339544578">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> Nope, just little old me.</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356297297115619328">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/JoshZavadil">@JoshZavadil</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> I get it, This is how ESPN guys who report stuff like Dwight's staying w/<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Lakers&amp;src=hash">#Lakers</a> accept responsibility.</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356297773273985024">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Cboy562">@Cboy562</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> I shouldn't mess w/Twitter jock who knows lots of slimy tricks... Anyone see him acknowledge bad <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23D12&amp;src=hash">#D12</a> call yet?</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356299036426383360">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler">@MarkHeisler</a> Still not convinced. Nevertheless enjoy your summer. And much respect as always.</p>&mdash; chris palmer (@ESPNChrisPalmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer/statuses/356299004759384065">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> Still not convinced? <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23D12&amp;src=hash">#D12</a> went to <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rockets&amp;src=hash">#Rockets</a>. Never even considered the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Lakers&amp;src=hash">#Lakers</a>. I know 'cause I saw it on 'SportsCenter'</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356299695888416770">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/idgachuck">@idgachuck</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> Nah. It's a scam by whoever this Chris Palmer guy is, because I asked him about his <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23D12&amp;src=hash">#D12</a> to <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Lakers&amp;src=hash">#Lakers</a> scoop.</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356300057735213056">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/arnel24">@arnel24</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> What war? I'm wrong lots. I just say acknowledge it, go on to next mistake, er, call. I'd advise @ESPNCP to try it</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356300433892974592">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/AQS18">@AQS18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> I'll have to take your word for it. Which ESPN is he on. Uno? Duos? Tres? I've never laid eyes on him.</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356300690357895168">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/jordanhklein">@jordanhklein</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AQS18">@AQS18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> What's ESPN 22 in Spanish?</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356300939172388864">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/arnel24">@arnel24</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> He reported it as fact. Said he had source.... BTW, where is he? Haven't heard from him since he said I'm hacked</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356301931280482304">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>@ChrisPalmerESPN Since you seem to be having trouble, I'll help.... 'A funny thing happened on <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23D12&amp;src=hash">#D12</a>'s way to the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Lakers&amp;src=hash">#Lakers</a>, a source told me'</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356302258620735489">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Sniping on Twitter at 11:30 on a Saturday night is a little undignified for a man of his stature. But I guess that's what it's come to.</p>&mdash; chris palmer (@ESPNChrisPalmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer/statuses/356302235505917952">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> That wasn't the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23D12&amp;src=hash">#D12</a>'s-not-a-Laker acknowledgement, was it? I know it's late but I don't want to miss it.</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356302691896524801">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> Of course, it's in fun... unless a guy who reported incorrectly <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23D12&amp;src=hash">#D12</a> would sign w/<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Lakers&amp;src=hash">#Lakers</a> really can't acknowledge mistake</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356303577905496065">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>This was a joke that would have ended when <a href="https://twitter.com/chrispalmer">@ChrisPalmer</a> acknowledged what world knew, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23D12&amp;src=hash">#D12</a> report was wrong....Now it's a journalism lesson!</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356304838608437248">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler">@MarkHeisler</a> What exactly is your overall point?</p>&mdash; chris palmer (@ESPNChrisPalmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer/statuses/356304949258371072">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer">@ESPNChrisPalmer</a> You should know, you've been making it over and over, by omission and commission for 20 minutes. I'm going to bed. Thanks!</p>&mdash; Mark Heisler (@MarkHeisler) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkHeisler/statuses/356305252695293954">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    It's nice to see an old school award winning journalist call out what most ESPN guys are doing right now...
     
    #1 hizzobbes, Jul 14, 2013
  2. dharocks

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    Heisler was floating a bunch of BS about him going to the Warriors. Both got it wrong.
     
    #2 dharocks, Jul 14, 2013
  3. Fair Dinkum

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    Yep. That's all I remember of Heisler.

    These guys spread that Dwight was 50/50 stuff when he was on his way back to LA:

    Alex Kennedy
    Chris Broussard
    Ramona Shelburne

    Why is the level of NBA reporting so bad? Its like a bunch of fans just trying to publish stories as a hobby. I mean the difference between these so called reporters and fans wildly speculating on fan forums or blogs is almost indistinguishable. Everyone seems to have an agenda too. I've totally switched off NBA reporters and insiders that quote league sources. Rather the logical presentations of the pros and cons of Clutch Fan members. Well, some of them anyways.
     
    #3 Fair Dinkum, Jul 14, 2013
  4. Harrisment

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    Yeah he was way off, but the difference is that he admitted it and owned his mistake. He's calling out Palmer for completely ignoring how adament he was that D12 was staying. I like it. We need more of this if we ever hope for accountability to come back to reporting.
     
    #4 Harrisment, Jul 14, 2013
  5. Aleron

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    Heisler's sources were GS side, cyberx here even said the same thing (that it came from his sources GS side), Heisler's past gives him more connection to Jerry West than anyone else these days as well, at least that's what the lakers forums insiders said if i remember.

    Palmer on the other hand was just plain making it up.
     
    #5 Aleron, Jul 14, 2013
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    pathetic journ-w****-ists who'll report anything to get a twitter hit
     
    #6 pippendagimp, Jul 14, 2013
  7. DaDakota

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    Honor among theives?.......nah.

    DD
     
    #7 DaDakota, Jul 14, 2013
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    Heiseler: Hearing Warriors
    Palmer: He's definitely staying with the Lakers
    Jordan Schultz: He's 100% going to the Mavs. You'll all see. LOL No way he goes to the Rockets.
     
    #8 justtxyank, Jul 14, 2013
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    A writer an established one claimed that BS was leaked by the Warriors ownership for whatever reason.
     
    #9 hooroo, Jul 26, 2013
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    I believe what happened was that DH's camp leaked the GSW interest early on to see if they could identify who was feeding info to the media. At that point GSW was not a real possibility, but the press ran with it regardless. It was only after DH met with Mark Jackson that they actually came into consideration. Shortly after that GSW began making some bold moves and it became the Cinderella story du Jour.
     
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    Sure did, dude said a sign and trade with the warriors was a done deal. Old ppl these days. I hate Chris Palmer so screw him, I hope he loses all his sources LoL
     
    #11 Fantasma Negro, Jul 26, 2013
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    Hilarious, considering Heisler was a troll throughout the whole situation as well. They were both dead wrong about Dwight.

    They're = to Kennedy and Broussard and Shelburne, which is bad.
     
    #12 RedDynasty, Jul 26, 2013
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    The reporters were so off because there were no leaks. However, all the reporters had pressure to "get news" from their sources, and with no leaks they had to guess and give vague information.

    To this day I do not believe that Golden State was ever the favorite with Dwight. I think Howard wanted the Rockets before the recruiting started, and he wanted Houston throughout the process.
     
    #13 Nook, Jul 26, 2013
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    I wonder how much manipulative NBA front offices played into the situation? Each FO had ample reason to attempt to manipulate media spin in the days leading up to Howard's decision. We will never know.
     
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    I read recently that front offices have been known to ask writers to spin things in their favor in exchange for a real scoop later on but Chris Palmer was just bad. If you read his twitter feed you can see just how delusional the guy is and obviously he doesn't have respect from other writers or players (look at KD's tweet in the other thread).

    When I first started my twitter I followed him along with a lot of other ESPN and local/national writers... it did not take too many of his asinine lists for me to realize what he was and to unfollow him. Unfortunately he still has 80k other people reading him.
     
    #15 hizzobbes, Jul 26, 2013
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    All of this just brings back memories of:

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/InsideHoops">@InsideHoops</a>: Long-time ESPN NBA writer Chris Palmer now a free agent: <a href="http://t.co/rAWMm7IqvX">http://t.co/rAWMm7IqvX</a></p>&mdash; chris palmer (@ChrisPalmerNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisPalmerNBA/statuses/360963023671803904">July 27, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    #17 dream1222, Jul 26, 2013
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    twitter sucks, @paraphrase @me @please
     
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    #Iknowit'shardtounderstandsometimesandusuallytotallyfrivoulousunnecessarystuffwritteninanannoyingformat RT @Summer Song Giver @Clutchfans
     
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    Wake me when he reappears as a writer for Slam magazine so I can make fun of him...again.
     
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