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  1. threepointshot3

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    And he sure aint better then Harden.
     
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    No Harden doesn't have a pull up midrange game. The Spurs in the playoffs basically clogged the paint and dared him to shoot that mid range and it worked perfectly.
     
  3. threepointshot3

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    Harden has one of best Step back jumpers in the nba and also he has a nice elbow step back.
     
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    The only planet where Curry is better than Harden is Earth--and I think that's the one only that matters. We're not playing Space Jam here.

    Harden really improved his conditioning and effort last year; He's improved his defensive effort, but I think Curry has more than acquitted himself as a defender, and I think you're sleeping on Curry's passing.

    Harden still has to keep growing and evolving. Is he really a PG? Can he be more efficient with his steps on D to make up for the fact that he doesn't have elite quickness? Can he trust that extending a play and running the offense will create an easier shot than a dribble up, burn the clock, and shoot over the top 3-ball? Will he raise his game so that he goes 5 or 10 games in a row that he doesn't miss a close out on a shooter?

    There are a million little things and at least 50 intangible leadership qualities that Harden could bring to the stage. Now that he's made the big move with his overall effort and conditioning, it's time to bring the rest.

    I'm happy to read that we're looking to add players. Griffin or Millsap would make a difference. At least they would match up with other forwards and offer us actual advantages on the glass. Our PG (if it is Harden) shouldn't be guarding opposing PFs ever. Too much wear and tear.
     
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    QUOTE="j@amc, post: 11157369, member: 6078"]The only planet where Curry is better than Harden is Earth--and I think that's the one only that matters. We're not playing Space Jam here.

    Harden really improved his conditioning and effort last year; He's improved his defensive effort, but I think Curry has more than acquitted himself as a defender, and I think you're sleeping on Curry's passing.

    Harden still has to keep growing and evolving. Is he really a PG? Can he be more efficient with his steps on D to make up for the fact that he doesn't have elite quickness? Can he trust that extending a play and running the offense will create an easier shot than a dribble up, burn the clock, and shoot over the top 3-ball? Will he raise his game so that he goes 5 or 10 games in a row that he doesn't miss a close out on a shooter?

    There are a million little things and at least 50 intangible leadership qualities that Harden could bring to the stage. Now that he's made the big move with his overall effort and conditioning, it's time to bring the rest.

    I'm happy to read that we're looking to add players. Griffin or Millsap would make a difference. At least they would match up with other forwards and offer us actual advantages on the glass. Our PG (if it is Harden) shouldn't be guarding opposing PFs ever. Too much wear and tear.[/QUOTE]
    No I am going evidence. This season Harden created more points for his team and and himself then almost anyone in the leagues history. Harden is a more offensive weapon because he creates more points. Why is this so hard to understand?As for Curry's leadership? he was missing in the finals in 2016 but lets give him a pass.If you go by production and total points created Harden is ahead but you want us to believe otherwise .
     
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  6. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Yeah the last of which was seen in the 2014/2015 season with any sense of regularity

    How can you call it one of the best when it is never used?

    Curry is better than Harden, all thing considered.
     
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    Curry is a winner, Harden is almost a winner..... not the same league IMO.

    Vastly different players. I think Curry is the smarter one everything considered as well.

    Harden is probably more experienced at dragging teams to the 8th, 7th places with no talent than Curry.

    Curry can operate better with top talents... he has no ego issues. Not reported.
     
  8. threepointshot3

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    All things considerd Creates more points for himself and his teammates which equates to him being a more productive offensive player..
     
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  9. threepointshot3

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    Give Harden Thompson, Durant, Green plus Iggy, Bogut , West, Speight and he will be a winner to
     
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    Sure but after one title he will sulk because he isn't clearly the No1 guy.... maybe his ego will keep him from winning one title, we won't know.

    Also Curry won one title without Durant and one WCF title. With Curry we know coz it happened.

    Won't know with Harden. If Harden cannot co exist with CP3 we will know he is not a winner and good team mate. He won't be winning it big.

    Good thing actually. We will know.
     
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    Based on what? When was the last time he sulked about touches? This is the same guy who was deferring to Eric Gordon a lot of times this season. He was fine playing 3rd fiddle in OKC.
     
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    He also plays more minutes, handles the ball much more....

    What about them record turnovers two seasons in a row? Are you one of them who will say turnovers don't matter....
     
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    So you think if Curry played the same minutes and had the same usage rate as Harden did who had a Oscar Robertson Type season interms of points created production would replicate Harden's output? No.Curry is not that type of player. He is not the player Harden is interms of being able to carry a team.
     
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    When Harden puts his back to the basket and gets his step back jumper going, it's almost unstoppable. Problem is, he doesn't use it much. Team is so focused on 3's, points at the rim, or free throws.
     
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    Good luck trying to convince an actual millionaire on that one. He already makes more than he'll ever spend. Women in LA are just as good looking if not better, they have better clubs, better weather, and it's visually a more beautiful city; sight seeing, geographically etc.
     
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    He has been to more Rockets games than other former Rockets that doesn't do broadcast. A true dreamer.
     
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    Best case scenario would be if Paul took a pay cut to allow Griffin to come to Houston as well. And then you trade for Paul George. You then have Paul-Harden-George-Griffin-Center to go against the Warriors. I'd say that's a pretty legit team. Of course one can dream.
     
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    Harden/Blake is Nash/Amare on steroids
     
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