[REAL GM] SIGH another Player Ranking thread, but this one has spoilers !!!

Voice of Aus · Oct 29, 2013

JUST WAIT, I know I'm getting sick of rankings to, but one more cant hurt right.

I think Real Gm has made the first rankings I actually liked, check it out and comment below or even leave the necessary abusive Lin/Bev related comment, it doesn't bother me. but the fact is, this year is gonna be fun.

http://basketball.realgm.com/article/230480/Top-50-Players-In-NBA-Today-Considering-Everything

What was considered when making the list:

Player quality: How good a player is now as where they could be moving forward. Teams win championships with MVPs and top tier talent is the most valuable commodity in basketball, especially with individual max contracts. Truly elite players also typically translate into at least regular season success. For guys currently younger than their peak, their ceiling and the likelihood of reaching that ceiling matter a great deal. Versatility and longevity were major factors as well.

Player age: Since everyone on this list is a good basketball player, how much total value they will contribute to their teams comes more in both duration of success rather and degree. This factor takes older high quality players like Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant and Dirk Nowitzki out since there are similarly good players who will have longer remaining careers.

Contract: Since the NBA has a salary cap, luxury tax and Collective Bargaining Agreement to shape how teams can be built, the financial commitment to each player means a great deal. While the years and total dollars matter significantly, it is hard to understate the importance of “team control” through Restricted Free Agency since it allows a franchise to retain a player unless he undertakes extraordinary measures. For example, Dwight Howard and Andre Drummond will likely be free agents the same summer, yet Detroit can keep Drummond as long as they are willing to match any offer. Houston would love the same opportunity.

Positional value and scarcity: I value primary scorers, elite defenders and primary ballhandlers more than just about anything else on the floor because of how hard they are to find. True centers get pushed up as well because of how few of them are left in the league and the reverse is true for power forwards that cannot defend another position.

Durability/Injury Status: Players must be on the court in order to contribute. As such, a guy being more or less likely than others to miss meaningful time was considered in the process.
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what was surprising is that the whole rockets team made it onto his list, its his top 60 players based on the criteria, and it was the first rankings that i actually continued to read.

Rockets Starting 5

PG
58. Patrick Beverley

(PG, 25 years old, 2 years / $1.7m + RFA): Like teammate Chandler Parsons, some of Beverley’s appeal comes from his insanely manageable contract. With two years remaining and restricted free agency on top of it (with full Bird rights, no less), adding a player who can be both productive and inexpensive makes a ton of sense. While some may say he has a lower upside than other PG’s, Beverley still has plenty of room to grow and has been.
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SG
6. James Harden

(SG, 24 years old, 5 years/$80m): After an eye-opening final season in Oklahoma City, Harden showed that he could make a huge impact with a heavier load and weaker surrounding talent in Houston last year. His herky jerky offensive game makes him a brutal cover and he has become excellent at both getting to the line and making those free throws. Any increase in skill or effort on defense would be another huge positive for a guy with so much remaining potential.
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SF
50. The Handsome one

(SF, 25 years old, 2 years / $1.5m or 1 year / $927k + RFA): The player with the second most interesting contract situation in the entire league has already shown his value as a complementary scorer and underrated passer. Having one or two more seasons at a ludicrously low salary makes him one of the best bargains in the entire NBA.
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PF
16. Dwight Howard

(C, 27 years old, 3 years / $64.4m): In 10-11, Howard put together a simply fantastic season and propelled Orlando into the fourth seed in the Eastern Conferene at just 25 years old. Just two years after that point, we have to see if Howard can return to that form on a team similarly well-suited to maximize his talents. Playing with an elite scorer in a system where he can thrive should tell the world definitively whether D12 belongs in the discussion of elite big men for their time.
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C
49. Omer Asik

(C, 26 years old, 2 years / $16.7m): Such a compelling player because he has been an elite rebounder and defender while providing very little other than rebounding on offense. His unusual three-year contract looks even better now since the seasons equal out for bookmaking purposes after the Bulls did not match. At only 26, Asik still has time to work on his free throws and maximize the opportunities he creates as an offensive rebounder.
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besides from being the only team to have all starters in the ranking we also are lucky enough to still be a top 5 team in terms of age and average salary

on a side note, OKC is the fattest team this year, YIKES

this can only mean one thing, bring on the season, my body is ready
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Zalgiris · Oct 29, 2013

Rankings? Yall talking bout rankings???? Rankings??!!!

Fawkward · Oct 29, 2013

They have Carmelo Anthony at 58... After MKG and who the hell is Dennis Schroeder and why is he ranked above Melo? Trash rankings

Voice of Aus · Oct 29, 2013

Fawkward said: ↑

They have Carmelo Anthony at 58... After MKG and who the hell is Dennis Schroeder and why is he ranked above Melo? Trash rankings
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dont question the rankings, it is positive to the rockets so lets just believe it OKAY

justtxyank · Oct 29, 2013

I know it factors in contract, but still...

players ranked above Dwight Howard:
Anthony Davis (3) LOL!!!!
Andre Drummond (7)
Marc Gasol
Kawhi Leonard
Joakim Noah

If Dwight is really only the 16th most valuable player, falling behind the names I listed (plus others like Kevin Love) then the Rockets are going to be in trouble.

hooroo · Oct 29, 2013

Fawkward said: ↑

They have Carmelo Anthony at 58... After MKG and who the hell is Dennis Schroeder and why is he ranked above Melo? Trash rankings
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Dennis Schroeder is the real deal. His game is nearly a carbon copy of Rondo's except he can shoot too.

conundrum · Oct 29, 2013

justtxyank said: ↑

I know it factors in contract, but still...

players ranked above Dwight Howard:
Anthony Davis (3) LOL!!!!
Andre Drummond (7)
Marc Gasol
Kawhi Leonard
Joakim Noah

If Dwight is really only the 16th most valuable player, falling behind the names I listed (plus others like Kevin Love) then the Rockets are going to be in trouble.
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This, LOL at this list, c'mon! It has Durant ranked higher than Lebron, what a joke.

jbasket · Oct 29, 2013

Lebron not at number one removes any credibility this list might have had.

TheRealAllpro · Oct 29, 2013

Yea... no thanks

JBar · Oct 29, 2013

Read the criteria guys: The evaluation combines the talent of the player and the value of the contract. In that light, the list isn't so weird.

Fullcourt · Oct 29, 2013

JBar said: ↑

Read the criteria guys: The evaluation combines the talent of the player and the value of the contract. In that light, the list isn't so weird.
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Seeing as LeBron is worth, I don't know, $50 million, it's ridiculous to not have him at #1.

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