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Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2017-18

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Oct 25, 2017.

  1. fattz

    fattz Member

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    Hawks
    In Capela (S&T) and Tyus Jones (filler)
    Out Schroder and 1st

    Kings
    In Anderson & Hawks 1st
    Out WCS & Temple

    TWolves
    In Schroder, Gordon & Rox 1st
    Out Butler, Jones & Brooks

    Rox
    In Butler, WCS, Temple & Brooks
    Out Anderson, Gordon, Capela & 1st
     
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  2. j@amc

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    Chicago
    Gordon, Anderson

    OKC
    ---- (I would suspect a pick or European rights held by Houston)

    Houston
    Carmelo Anthony

    Chicago desperately needs shooting, and they can flip Gordon to a playoff team at the deadline. This gets OKC out of luxury tax woes. . . Houston adds Carmelo and opens up a roster space to sign a free agent or one of their undrafted players.
     
  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I wouldn't give away Gordon just to get Anderson off the books.
     
  4. j@amc

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    I hear you. I don't love that either but that's one of the only ways to add Carmelo to the Rockets as a trade (and not a buyout).
    I suspect a trade like I proposed is the sort of thing that Carmelo's agent has to be floating with this new move to waive his no trade clause.

    Moving Anderson is going to be costly though.
     
  5. Haymitch

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    According to ESPN trade machine, this works:

    Ryan Anderson
    Nene

    for

    DeMarre Carroll
    Kenneth Faried

    How much sweetener would BKN need in order to accept this awful trade? 1st round pick unprotected? 1st + 2nd?
     
  6. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    The problem here is that the Nets want to utilize cap space next off season. And Anderson eats into that.
     
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  7. Haymitch

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    Why you gotta come in here and tell it like it is? Can't you just let me pretend we have a way to simultaneously dump RA and improve our team all at once? I mean FFS the Thunder did it with Melo; surely we can do something with RA!
     
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  8. baller4life315

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    ...and yet they traded for Mozgov's horrific contract. I don't get it. Granted, they fixed that mistake but got very lucky, IMO. Charlotte should have asked for much more. Bullet dodged.

    I still think Sacramento is our most likely trading partner. They're loaded with expiring contracts and nothing to play for. Plus, we've been linked to Shumpert before.

    A couple days ago I proposed:

    Anderson, Gordon, Nene, 1st rounder for Randolph, Koufos, Shumpert, Hield

    I think this is a great way for us to both dump Anderson and continue to evolve and get better. We do the deal to move Anderson, get a younger version of Gordon, upgrade backup C and arm ourselves with multiple expiring contracts that will be valuable at the trade deadline. Shumpert can probably contend for a rotation spot right away given his ability to defend multiple positions. Koufos can be our new backup C.

    Sacramento does this for the draft pick, to get the best player in the deal (EG) and to dump dead weight.
     
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  9. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I feel ya. I am so ready to turn the page on Ryan Anderson.
     
  10. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    They were asset building and had nothing. Mozgov was the cost of doing business to getting the #2 pick in the draft Dangelo Russell. Then they flipped him for Howard's expiring. Slowly they are building assets and cap space. Great job by Sean Marks.
     
  11. D-rock

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    Using your rationale, SAC does it for picks (and wings!) then give me:

    HOU out: Ryan Anderson, Nene, Vince Edwards, first rounder, rights to Gentile

    SAC out: WCS, Iman Shumpert, Zach Randolph, Ben McClemore

    POR out: Aminu, Meyers Leonard, Evan Turner, first rounder, 2nd rounder

    HOU in: WCS, Aminu, Meyers Leonard

    POR in: Zach Randolph, Iman Shumpert, Nene, Ben McClemore

    SAC in: Ryan Anderson, Evan Turner, 2 first rounders, POR 2nd rounder, Vince Edwards, rights to Gentile

    Props to @Milos for proposing a version of this first.

    CP3/MCW/Melton
    Harden/EGo/Ennis
    Aminu/Ennis/Clark
    PJ/Melo/Qi
    Capela/WCS/Meyers
     
  12. baller4life315

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    I'm just not a fan of Russell and Mozgov's deal is Parsons level bad. You're right, though, the end result has them well positioned. I'm just shocked they we were able to dump Mozgov so easily.
     
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    Houston: Capela, Anderson, Zhou Qi
    Memphis: Gasol, Parsons, J Green

    Basically a Capela/Qi for Gasol/Green trade with us trading bad contracts Parsons/Anderson.

    Memphis gets younger with this trade and makes Gasol happy :D and Capela gets the contract he wants.

    Rockets have a 4 year window and trying to win as many titles in that window
     
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    No thanks. Marc Gasol is still good on offense, but he can't play much defense.
     
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  15. Haymitch

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    Why does Portland do that? Just to dump salary? If so... then what? It's not like they're getting any FAs, and it's not like Dame/CJ/Nurk is taking them anywhere.

    This would be the first step towards Lillard forcing a trade out of Portland.
     
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    Cool idea inspired by a realgm post.

    Whiteside and Onuaku to Bucks

    Capela, Anderson, DJ Wilson, Hou 1st, Bucks 2nd to Heat

    Winslow, Bam, Snell, Henson to Rockets


    Rotation

    Paul
    Harden / Gordon
    Winslow / Snell
    Anthony / Tucker
    Adebayo / Henson

    Bench: Nene, Ennis, Green, Williams

    G-League: Qi, Melton, Hartenstein
    2-Way: House, Adel
     
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  17. D-rock

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    They need to dump Leonard. He is their Ryno but worse because he was a lottery pick. The guy is $11M sitting on bench because they are 2 deep at 4 and 5.
     
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    Houston out: Ryan, Zhou, 1st, rights to gentile
    Houston in: Bazemore, Dedmon

    Outlook: gain 3.5m in salary but acquire 2 rotation pieces. Highly doubt the rockets are going to trade their 1st to dump Ryan. I know that's unpopular opinion, but I think they want as many assets as possible for a hopeful all star trade at the deadline this year with so many stars set to become FAs. None the less of you could get a very good backup in Dedmon and a better replacement at a position of need in Baze I think it's worth spending the 1st.



    Atlanta Out: Bazemore, Dedmon
    Atlanta in: Ryan, Zhou, 1st, rights to gentile

    Outlook: bad contract for bad contract but getting paid for it. The signed Len and Collins seems better fit at the 5 so moving dedmon makes sense. They have no traditional 4 on their roster and adding Ryan doesnt hurt their tank but could actually help Trae learn the NBA by providing that wonderful "spacing". They also double down on the Asian market by getting Zhou. All while acquiring a future asset
     
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  20. Milos

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    Dumping Leonard & Turner ($60M combined over next 2 yrs) for expirings saves them $30M (10 + 20) to rid locker room of 2 problems

    The cost is 1yr of AFA + 1 future first
    Since not taking back any bad deals in return

    Not that outlandish considering what the rumored cost would be for us to dump Ryno's remaining $40M

    In this scenario, we team up w PORT to meet SAC's price (mult future 1sts) without either team having to give up more than 1 pick each

    I agree PORT is going nowhere

    Lillard may want out soon anyway
    But until he does, this team was still #3 seed

    Even w a drop this yr, they still look like fringe #7-8 seed
    Why not clear out 2 bad contracts now for a pick that figures to be out of lotto?
    Not like NO, MIN, OKC or UTAH have improved much
     

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