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Random Houston Rocket Trade Ideas 2018-19

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 7, 2018.

  1. Vivi

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    For me the problem around getting Brown (aside for an asset standpoint which is already a big obstacle), is that Boston can pretty much do two things this summer depending on what Irving does:

    - if he bolts, to me there's no way Boston trades him, cause at that point they would probably look to build around him and Tatum, possibly Rozier...and i wouldn't expect them to try to trade for Davis.

    - if Irving stays i'd expect Brown to be part of a package for a Davis trade, because Tatum and a couple of picks outside of the lottery won't be enough to beat what the Lakers and the Knicks will offer.

    And in both situations, i don't really know how we can get him tbh, because let's say the Celtics trade for Davis and for some reason Tatum and picks are enough, then they'll be left with Horford, Davis, Hayward, Irving and Rozier (who's going to sign the qo in this scenario and already said he would like to leave)...if you look at those starters, one thing they would really lack is a big guard/wing with athleticism, and that's exactly Brown, who's also on a cheap contract, which would be pretty much a must to have for a team with basically 4 max contracts.
     
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    So you are saying there is no chance(which is most likely). If Hayward returns to pre injury form, could he be their big guard/wing with athleticism?
     
  3. Vivi

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    For me there's isn't tbh, i'm not sure they would trust Hayward enough to give away Brown, and if for some reason Ainge decides to make him available, i'd say there's a good chance at least one team (but realistically there would be more than one) offers something better than us.

    The only scenario i can see us having a chance, is if:

    - Irving bolts
    - Brown for some reason decides he wants to leave and starts acting like a cancer
    - Celtics really like Capela

    ...so, yeah, it won't happen imo, and even then we would still be forced to overpay...because Capela has a bigger contract, has less potential, he's older...Ainge would probably still ask a couple of picks or other assets anyway.
     
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  4. JayZ750

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    Capela and EG for Horford and Brown would be close to working.

    Assuming they swing and miss on AD, and are looking to move forward with a more balanced roster. They still won't do it, so you add in a 1st round pick.

    But I still doubt they do it.
     
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  5. Falcao

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    Y'all are saying "Butler" "Jaylen Brown" or "Horford" but the problem is that even if we accomplish that, we don't truly know if it's enough. It may work, but it's also possible it may not.

    The closest thing to being much more certain that it will work would have to be a transformative player. One that has league and nationwide ramifications like the Durant to GS move. We knew what that meant, and we are seeing presently the results of such a move. GS is very close to a 4th title in 5 years.

    There is a transformative move out there. He is 7ft 250#, shoots over 50% FG, over 80% FT, at 24 yo has more career triple doubles than Kareem Abdul Jabbar and only trails Wilt, His passing is being compared to Larry Bird. He played outstanding in the Reg Season, and played even better in the playoffs. He may very well be the MVP of the league next year.

    His name is Nikola Jokic.
     
  6. baller4life315

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    I’ve proposed Capela for Brown/Baynes + filler. We would likely have to include future draft considerations as well.

    I understand Boston is hoping to land AD or something bigger, but if they strikeout something along these lines could be a logical play. This would allow Horford to play his natural position and avoid having to pay Brown. Contrary to what some say around these parts, Capela does have trade value. He’s improved every year he’s been in the league.

    For us, we acquire a 22-year-old swingman that’s hungry and full of upside. He wants a larger role. This should feel very reminiscent of the Harden trade. And Baynes only makes $5-6M per year, so we can feel zero guilt about benching him and going small when necessary.
     
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    It would come at the cost of some serious talent tho
     
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  8. Vivi

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    Horford can't play the 4 for an entire season anymore @baller4life315 ...or at least it's what i think. He played the 4 only in his first (or first two) year in the league, but almost suddenly moved to the 5, i don't see how he goes back playing the 4 now that he's 32 and that the nba plays a lot smaller than 10 years ago, he would be dead after 40 games. And another thing that would die is Boston spacing if you take out a stretch 4 like Morris and put Capela without a James Harden in the starting 5, they already lack shooting and offense overall, this would make them struggle even more.
     
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    Clint capela plus pick for a year AD rental!
     
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    Philly In: Anthony Davis, Nene
    Philly Out: Jimmy Butler and Ben Simmons

    NO In: Eric Gordon and Ben Simmons, Hou Pick(s)
    NO Out: Anthony Davis

    Houston In: Jimmy Butler
    Houston Out: Eric Gordon, Nene, Pick(s)
     
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    By the way, Jokic was just named to All NBA 1st Team over Embiid.
     
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    NBA rumors: Would Rockets trade Chris Paul after dust-up with James Harden? 8 trade ideas | Lakers? Knicks? Heat?
    Today 6:00 AM
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    Eric Gay | AP

    Would the Rockets trade Chris Paul?
    By Zack Rosenblatt | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

    Things didn’t end well this season for the Houston Rockets after they lost to the Golden State Warriors in the second round of the playoffs a couple weeks ago.

    It only got worse in the locker room after they were eliminated in Game 6, with star guards James Harden and Chris Paul getting into a verbal altercation after the game, according to The Athletic’s Shams Charania.

    The Rockets are in an interesting situation headed into the offseason, as they don’t have the cap flexibility to add standout players as free agents due to the significant contracts they’ve already handed out to Paul and Harden in recent years.

    Harden is a perennial MVP candidate in his prime, so he’s not going anywhere, but would the Rockets consider moving Paul?

    The difficulty lies in his contract — he’s set to earn $38.5 million next season, $41.3 million in 2020-21 and has a player option for $44.2 million in 2021-22.


    Still, Paul remains an All-Star caliber point guard and a potential difference-maker for another team who also finds itself in a difficult cap situation or won’t attract top-notch free agents.

    Here are eight trade proposals that make varying degrees of sense if Houston attempts to shop him around.

    TRADE 1

    Lakers get: PG Chris Paul

    Rockets get: F Brandon Ingram, G Josh Hart, C Mo Wagner

    Analysis: This works two-fold. The Rockets get Paul’s massive contract off their books — the Lakers can afford to absorb most of it — and get a variety of role players to augment the roster, while LeBron James gets his best friend and an All-Star to join him. The Lakers wouldn’t have the cap space to sign anyone, but perhaps they could combine draft picks, Lonzo Ball and Kyle Kuzma to find another star in a trade.

    TRADE 2

    Heat get: PG Chris Paul

    Rockets get: G/F Josh Richardson, PG Goran Dragic, C Kelly Olynyk

    Analysis: The Heat are going to be over the cap for a while and need to get creative to add a star-level player. The Rockets would get group of role players — none more valuable than Richardson — to use around James Harden.

    TRADE 3

    Bucks get: PG Chris Paul

    Rockets get: PG Eric Bledsoe, PG George Hill, G Pat Connaughton

    Analysis: All but $1 million of Hill’s $18 million contract is non-guaranteed so the Rockets could waive him and save money, keep him or try and trade him for someone else. Bledsoe is much younger (and cost-effective) than Paul, who would be fun on a roster with Giannis Antetokoumpo as the Bucks go all-in trying to win sooner than later.

    TRADE 4

    Knicks get: PG Chris Paul

    Rockets get: F Lance Thomas, PG Dennis Smith, G Allonzo Trier, No. 3 overall pick

    Analysis: The Knicks can absorb most of Paul’s contract and still have enough to sign someone else, which would be extremely appealing to Houston. New York doesn’t have many player assets, but Thomas’ $7 million contract is non-guaranteed, and Smith, Trier and R.J. Barrett/No. 3 pick can be rotational (or trade) pieces.

    TRADE 5


    Sixers get: PG Chris Paul

    Rockets get: F Jimmy Butler, G/F Jonathon Simmons

    Analysis: This would have to be in a sign-and-trade, and Paul’s contract isn’t very appealing for the Sixers, but if they don’t get Butler back, they don’t have many other options. Paul is still an All-Star caliber player who would fit nicely next to Ben Simmons as someone who can both aptly defend point guards and hit three-pointers as an off-ball scorer.

    TRADE 6

    Suns get: PG Chris Paul

    Rockets get: F T.J. Warren, F Josh Jackson, G Tyler Johnson, No. 6 overall pick

    Analysis: This might not appeal to Paul, but he’s the perfect fit next to Devin Booker, the Suns would add some role players and one (Jackson) with a high ceiling if he can get his head on straight. There are worse ways to rebuild the Rockets roster.

    TRADE 7

    Spurs get: PG Chris Paul

    Rockets get: F DeMar DeRozan, G Patty Mills

    Analysis: Paul has always felt like a Spurs player anyway. Might as well.

    TRADE 8

    Jazz get: PG Chris Paul

    Rockets get: F Derrick Favors, F Joe Ingles, PG Dante Exum

    Analysis: Favors has a non-guaranteed $16.9 million due this season that can be cleared off the books if Houston doesn’t want him. Ingles is a perfect fit for Houston’s system and if Exum can stay healthy he at least has some defensive potential. Paul-Donovan Mitchell-Rudy Gobert would form a fun trio.

    https://www.nj.com/sports/2019/05/n...-harden-8-trade-ideas-lakers-knicks-heat.html
     
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    These trade aren't realistic, but they were thrown out there...
     
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    I think Capela's failure vs GS will doom this plan from the get go.
     
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    The exclamation point means that although absolutely unrealistic, the mere concept is exciting!
     
  16. Vivi

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    Man, all those sites riding some Chris Paul trade fantsies...they almost make me believe something can happen lol
     
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    More relevant would probably be how he’s dared against Bucks, Sixers (Embiid), Raptors and Pacers. I can’t recall... im sure he was soft against some and good against others.
     
  18. baller4life315

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    Seriously.

    That Knicks trade would be highway robbery.
     
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    Houston trades: Capela, EG, two 1st rounders
    Houston receives: Butler, Ben Simmons

    Washington trades: Beal
    Washington receives: Capela, EG, two 1st rounders (HOU)

    Philly trades: Simmons, Butler
    Philly receives: Beal

    PG CP3
    SG Harden
    SF Butler
    PF Simmons
    C Tuck
     
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    Cut out Philly and keep Beal. Find a way to move Paul. We need size --> Sign WCS, Rivers & House.

    Rivers, Beal, Harden, Tucker, WCS
    6th man House
    Bench = the return we get from the Paul trade.

    IMO
    -WCS is a better overall player than Capela and cures a lot of our problems and can do most anything Capela does and more.
    - Rivers is serviceable and fits with the team. If his signing is reasonable let him start for a few years.
    - House not playing over 1/2 the season showed in the playoffs. A better seasons will happen if given the chance. His role will be better defined and his potential will be met.
    - We need a bench a lot more than what Paul gave this year. —> Brake up the massive contract into above average role players players & get the help we need.
     
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