This is obviously a slight editing of a classic, and I'm using hyperbole here to make a point : At every mouth his teeth a sinner champ'd Bruis'd as with pond'rous engine, so that three Were in this guise tormented. But far more Than from that gnawing, was the foremost pang'd By the fierce rending, whence ofttimes the back Was stript of all its skin. That upper spirit, Who hath worse punishment, so spake my guide, Is Selig, he that hath his head within And plies the feet without. Of th' other two, Whose heads are under, from the murky jaw Who hangs, is Pohlad: lo! how he doth writhe And speaks not! Th' other Huizenga, that appears So large of limb. But night now re-ascends, And it is time for parting. All is seen. Liars, Cheats, Scumbags who are destroying a beautiful sport. How do you know Bud Selig is lying? His Mouth is Moving.
Bud Selig look at what you've done. You've lied about finances and are a fraud. You tried to deny the great city of Minneapolis the joy of watching the Twins, even when it shows they care. Now you are trying to destroy the game for good. It's really simple, Selig you'll see. The owners want all the MON-EEY. Why don't you do something nice, like Compromise. Try a offering a mimimum payroll structure of 60-70 mil for the owners one May with a price ceiling so Steinbrenner and Co. don't have their way. Then the cities of Kansas City, Florida, Pittsburgh and more can say Hoorary as their teams live on to play another day.
With what pued just told me about the early Black Sox, I think Rose likely deserves to suffer without the hall.
Pete Rose belongs in the Hall. No if, ands or buts. And so does "Shoeless" Joe Jackson. Is what Selig doing to baseball any different from Rose or the Black Sox exploits?
Do any of the other Black Sox deserve to be in the hall? "Shoeless" Joe is no different from them. And no, what they did is no different than what Bud is doing now. But nobody is claiming that Bud belongs in the Hall...
Actually, he is very different considering the fact he is one of the greatest players in the history of baseball.........
Actually, I did not know that. I firmly believe that Bud is doing his damnedest to ruin baseball and I shudder at the thought of him in the hall. But Joe Jackson took money to throw a world series and very likely actually threw games in said series. Pete Rose bet on his own team which threatens the integrity of the sport more than any off the field issue. Both players (and Bud) should be barred from the hall in my mind.
Commissioners are elected to the Hall, just like players, and not all are in the Hall. I was wrong on that aspect. But they do go to the Hall for induction ceremonies The Commissioners Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis,1921-1944 A.B. "Happy" Chandler, 1945-1951 Ford Christopher Frick, 1951-1965 General William D. Eckert, 1965-1968 Bowie Kent Kuhn, 1969-1984 Peter Victor Ueberroth , 1984-1988 A. Bartlett Giamatti, 1988-1989 Francis T. Vincent, Jr., 1989-1992 Allan H. "Bud" Selig, 1998-Present http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/h...sts/data_entry&category&pioneer_executive.asp
Try a offering a mimimum payroll structure of 60-70 mil for the owners one May with a price ceiling so Steinbrenner and Co. don't have their way. Payroll floors don't work without revenue sharing because all franchises can't otherwise afford a 60M payroll. Player's Union is now against revenue sharing (they thought it was a great idea when the owners asked for a salary cap). The players don't seem interested in anything except the system they currently have in place. They won't even acknowledge that there's a competitive balance problem -- they say all is well.
The owners have proven they cannot control their spending. They are asking for the players help. Donald Fehr, who represents the players, will not give up anything the players already have. Each side is trying to play up to the fans. Have you noticed all the balls being thrown in the stands to fans by the players? Neither side will budge. There will be a strike. Some outside arbitrator will have to come in in order for anything to be accomplished.
Baseball Owners, Players Must Start Talking Saturday, May 18, 2002 BY MIKE LOPRESTI GANNETT NEWS SERVICE A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away . . . Baseball had a work stoppage. Several of them, in fact. The gates were locked and customers told to go home and watch football, while the affluent inside squabbled over every piece of gold, including whatever 8-year-olds spent on peanuts. The last job action washed out the World Series, left a gash on the game and broke a trust with the faithful. After which, sincere-looking men in owners' suits and players' uniforms solemnly said that it must never happen again. Not ever. But years dull the memory. So does money, home-run races, lines at the ticket windows. Thus, we had previews this week of another labor showdown, as reports surfaced that the players' union is beginning to make war plans. Coming attractions for the long-feared sequel to 1994-95. Baseball Star Wars: Episode XXXVIII. They're At It Again. Pre-emptive Strike: Spread this on your $4 hot dog the next trip to the ballpark: The players, whose average salary now approaches $2.4 million, reportedly are talking about setting a strike date. Maybe August. Maybe October and the playoffs. Whatever will achieve maximum collateral damage in negotiations that at the moment are batting .000. I believe generals call it a pre-emptive first strike capability. Bud Selig said there is no reason to overreact, with months ahead to work out a contract. He has a point, but it is not easy to be reassured by the commissioner of a sport that once put the torch to its own championship. If any public has the right to be oversensitive to ploys, posturing, mind games and other labor dispute gobbledygook, it is baseball's public. Strike? It is unwise to utter the word in baseball. Whisper it. Even breathe it. Let alone threaten it. Or, from the owners' side, to incite it, provoke it, goad it or inflame it. Would now be a good time to mention that 18 of the 30 teams currently have a drop in attendance this season? Baseball is not such a hot ticket anymore in Baltimore or Cleveland, where scalpers used to roam. There are more and more rows of empty seats at the new parks at Milwaukee and Pittsburgh and Detroit. Cincinnati is up in the standings but down at the gate. So is Florida. It would be wrong to assign the drop-off solely to some sort of mass fan defection from the game. The weather has been lousy in a lot of places. That's always a factor. But such widespread declines are at the very least a warning. There does not seem to be rampant, unqualified love for major-league baseball out there. Salaries have skyrocketed. Patronage has not. So the only strike baseball needs right now is a slider that catches the corner. Start Talking: Here's what should happen this summer. Both sides better talk. Relentlessly, thoughtfully, responsibly. No huffing or puffing or trying to blow anyone's house down. Both say they realize the harm of the last work stoppage and the danger of the next one. They say they understand that the post-Sept. 11 public has less tolerance for this nonsense from people who are rich and blessed. The next few months, they get to prove it. But it is easy to become suspicious. When the damage is done and peace is at hand, the wealthy combatants of baseball always do the same thing. They ask you to forgive, then to forget, then to pay more than you did before. It is a song as old as rhyme. What would a strike date mean? That it might not be long until they're asking you again.
The owners have proven they cannot control their spending. They are asking for the players help. There's a reason for this, though. Baseball is a bit of a unique business. On one hand, the franchises are competing against each other for talent. On the other hand, they are working together for revenues. That doesn't really happen in normal disputes. Under the current system, owners are allowed to compete, but they aren't allowed to work together (it would be collusion), so the owners can't control each other. In a normal company, they'd be able to establish company-wide rules and then negotiate the details with a union. Here, they can't establish ANY rules on their own, so it just takes a few owners to mess up the system. Neither side will budge. There will be a strike. Some outside arbitrator will have to come in in order for anything to be accomplished. Unfortunately, I completely agree.
