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prime kobe v.s. prime LeBron

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by catch22, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. Merla08

    Merla08 Member

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    Kobe has been playing since 1996 and only has 1 MVP
    Lebron has been playing since 2003 and has 3 MVPs

    The rings and MVPs will continue to come for Lebron as he is now just entering his prime.

    You tell me who the better player is.
     
  2. jbasket

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    last time was in 2008-2009, but it was when he played the Rockets, and Yao/Battier/Artest shut him down to a career worst game. We played some elite defence back then.

    http://www.lebronjamesuniverse.com/gamebygame/gamelog20082009.htm

    game 56.
     
  3. jbasket

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    sorry for double post, but it is actually the only time he recorded 0 assists in a game. Just one game IIRC.
     
  4. felixng2012

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    Lebron. 08-10, 11-12 Lebron were clearly better than Kobe at his best. Lebron not being clutch is overblown. His clutch shot FG% is higher than Kobe's and Lebron has made a crapload of clutch shots. Of course all that disappears when you have a horrendous final(2011).
    Player FG FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P%
    LeBron 461 1003 0.460 93 297 0.313

    vs

    Kobe 606 1525 0.397 99 351 0.282
     
  5. da_juice

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    That was my favorite Rockets game to watch (I was too young to remember the glory days of '94). Oh, what a team that was. What could have been.
     
  6. jbasket

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    Yea. Whenever people say the Tmac/Yao era couldn't legitimately compete for a title, I just pull up this roster and show their elite defence and great depth, plus the big three complete with Artest. It is a big what-if scenario, but that is a while ago. '94 was better :grin:
     
  7. thisiscaketown

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    It really depends on what you need from your team. I would see less contested 3-pointers with double-digit seconds on the shotclock from LeBron, though.
     
  8. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Thats unbelievable when you think about it

    LeBron has only 1 game in his career regular season or playoffs with 0 assists

    smh
     
  9. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    that was a TNT game

    Yao blocking LeBron.. after LeBron got Yao in Cleveland


    Marv Albert: Von Wafer for 3.... "ANOTHER 3 FOR VON WAFER!"
     
  10. jbasket

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    Yea, his court vision and passing accuracy are unparalleled for anybody his size. Absolute amazing skill and quite a feat by the Rockets defence.
     
  11. Shroopy2

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    It can go the other way too
    If the Celtics took care of business in '10 in game 7, one less ring for Kobe

    Kobe gets credit for having rings, not just from being a great player by himself. Of course having a ring changes perceptions.

    Why should Lebron get criticized for almost NOT having a ring?
     
  12. Rodman23

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    Prime Jeremy Lamb/Lin
     
  13. Icehouse

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    I remember how great Kobe was in his prime. Was he ever great enough to give you 30/10 a night on 50% shooting, all while being the primary defender, with the capability to switch from PG's to PF's? No, he was never that good. As soon as you can point to one season or postseason from Kobe that rivals what LeBron did last year then I will agree with you. If you can't identify one then you are correct that it's no argument, in favor of LeBron.

    KOBE NEVER WAS AS GOOD AS LEBRON WAS LAST SEASON/POSTSEASON.
     
  14. peleincubus

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    thats just not fair. if you switched the ages of lebron and kobe it would be completely different.
     
  15. Icehouse

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    I've seen Kobe make the same major mental mistakes that LeBron has made, which is quitting in a series (vs Suns) and playing absolutely horrible in a Finals that his team had no business losing (Pistons).
     
  16. Saithh

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    Prime Kobe vs Prime LeBron

    First of all, take these into consideration
    This is 1v1, meaning stats, rings, teams don't matter.

    I'm pretty sure Kobe is more of a hard worker than a talent reliant guy, as where LeBron is in between.

    If it was a post game, LeBron would win offensively while Kobe can try to defend him. Kobe's offensive post game isn't bad either.

    They are different positions, LeBron is bigger and stronger, he relies MOSTLY on dunks and layups and takes a few jumpers (except for Game 7 2013 finals where he switched) as where Kobe is a jump shooter and can attack the rim.
    If they are the same height and weight and just as strong Kobe has the advantage. Because Lebron is a much more physical player.

    If this were a 1v1, they would both win and lose although I believe Kobe would win a few (1-3) more games because in his prime he is SUCH A BEAST. 34 year old kobe plays almost like a prime all-star although his defense is sloppy at times.

    Don't say Bron is better because he has higher fg% because they take different type of shots.
     
  17. Daddy Long Legs

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    Lebron.

    Bumped this thread because of mj lol.
     
  18. TheGreat

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    MJ just feels threatened LeBron could potentially surpass him.

    He's really close
     
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  19. YOLO

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    the guy that jumps from team to team is really close? not really
     
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  20. hakeemthagreat

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    He actually played with worse than the Cavs:

    Smush Parker
    Kwame Brown
    Devon George
    Chris Mihm
    Lamar Odom

    No HOF in NBA history played with a roster that bad in their respective primes. The sad part is I think this is when Kobe was at his best talent wise.

    Kobe>>>Lebron
     

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