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Polls: Blacks say Police Treat them Unfairly

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  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member

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    I'm posting this as a new thread rather than in the Ferguson as this polling data applies to many of the incidents that have been brought up here before.

    To sum up the way black people and other races view LE and encounters is very different. This also isn't a new development but one that many are saying are coming more to light due to the ubiquity of recording.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ferguson-anniversary-blacks-us-police-ap-poll/

    A year after Ferguson, blacks say police treat them unfairly

    WASHINGTON -- A majority of blacks in the United States - more than 3 out of 5 - say they or a family member have personal experience with being treated unfairly by the police, and their race is the reason why.

    This information, from a survey conducted by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, comes as the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, approaches its first anniversary and the nation continues to grapple with police-related deaths of black Americans.

    African-Americans said they felt especially targeted by the police. Half of black respondents, including 6 in 10 black men, said they personally had been treated unfairly by police because of their race, compared to 3 percent of whites. Another 15 percent said they knew of a family member who had been treated unfairly by the police because of their race.

    White Americans who live in more diverse communities - those where census data show at least 25 percent of the population is non-white - were more likely than other whites to say police in their communities sometimes treat minorities more roughly, 58 percent to 42 percent. And they're more likely to see the police as too quick to use deadly force, 42 percent to 29 percent.

    Last month, a CBS News/New York Times poll found Americans had negative views on the state of race relations, with nearly 6 in 10 Americans saying they're bad.

    In the poll released July 23, African-Americans were more critical than whites of key aspects of society, including the criminal justice system and voting. Nearly 8 in 10 African-Americans believe the criminal justice system is biased against them, up from 61 percent in 2013.

    Larry Washington, 30, of Merriville, Indiana, described his encounter with a white police officer when he was arrested for theft in Burbank, Illinois, as a teenager. "When I got to the police station, the officer who arrested me told me that I looked like I wanted to do something about it," Washington said, adding, "And he kept calling me '[n-word].'"

    "It's been like this for a long time," Washington said. "It's just now that everybody starting to record it and stuff, it's just hitting the spotlight. Most Caucasians, they think it's just starting to go on when it's been like this."

    The AP-NORC poll shows stark differences between whites and blacks when it came to attitudes toward law enforcement:

    More than two-thirds of blacks - 71 percent - thought police are treated too leniently by the criminal justice system when they hurt or kill people. A third of whites say police are getting away with it, while nearly half - 46 percent - say the police are treated fairly by the criminal justice system.
    When asked why police violence happens, 62 percent of whites said a major reason is that civilians confront the police, rather than cooperate, when they are stopped. Three out of 4 blacks, or 75 percent, said it is because the consequences of police misconduct are minimal, and few officers are prosecuted for excessive use of force. More than 7 in 10 blacks identified problems with race relations, along with poor relations between police and the public that they serve, as major reasons for police violence.
    Whites and blacks disagreed over whether police are more likely to use deadly force against blacks. Nearly 3 out of 4 whites - 74 percent - thought race had nothing to do with how police in their communities decide to use deadly force. Among blacks, 71 percent thought police were more likely to use deadly force against black people in their communities, and 85 percent said the same thing applied generally across the country. Fifty-eight percent of whites thought race had nothing to do with police decisions in most communities on use of deadly force.

    Seventy-two percent of whites said they always or often trust police to do what is right for them and their community, while 66 percent of blacks said they only sometimes, rarely or never trust the police to do what is right.

    David A. Clarke Jr, who is sheriff in Milwaukee County, Wisconsin, said African-Americans have more encounters with police than whites because of crime rates in urban areas. "If you have more interaction with the police because of the crime and the disorder in our urban centers - the American ghetto I like to say it - it's going to skew the numbers," Clarke said.

    David Thomas, 80, of Vienna, Georgia, recalled being treated roughly when stopped by police as a young man in Savannah, Georgia. He said relations between black communities and law enforcement have improved since then.

    "Everything is not right, but it's better," Thomas said. "We have bad cops and we have good cops. I don't know where we're going to from here, but we need police."

    The AP-NORC Poll of 1,223 adults, including 311 black adults, was conducted online and by phone July 17-July 19, using a sample drawn from NORC's probability-based AmeriSpeak panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus or minus 4.2 percentage points. For results among black respondents, the margin of error is plus or minus 9.1 percentage points.

    Respondents were first selected randomly using address-based sampling methods, and later interviewed online. People selected for Amerispeak who didn't otherwise have access to the Internet were interviewed over the phone.
     
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    The AP-NORC Poll of 1,223 adults, including 311 black adults, was conducted online and by phone July 17-July 19, using a sample drawn from NORC's probability-based AmeriSpeak panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population.

    Really? you asked 311 and say that 60% of America feels that way?
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    I can't speak specifically to their polling methods but this information does build off other polls and the CBS News one conducted in in June also follows the pattern found in the AP NORC poll.
     
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    Water is wet.
     
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    "feel sorry for us"
     
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    Duhhh. As you drive around the freeways look occasionally and see who gets pulled over.
     
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    I think that's a big part of the problem, certain people blaming problems they cause on others. Someone gets pulled over for breaking the law, clearly it has to be a racist cop...it can't be simply that they were breaking the law. That childlike mentality really needs to go away.
     
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    Unlicensed Asian home modeling contractors in white vans?
     
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    I was pulled over supposedly for having a "bracket" around my license plate. But the cop was staring at me when I pulled up next to him at a red light, He followed me several blocks and when he finally signaled for me to pull over he said he didn't believe that my new car was mine, LOL. The judge yelled at the cop and dismissed the case.
     
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    A recent study showed that right around 49 percent of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 were white, while only 30 percent were black.....but guess which ones got ALL of the headlines?
     
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    Poor Dice. He would be so much more successful if it were not for reverse racism holding him back.
     
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    The ones that were killed 300% more often than they appear in the general population?

    It's like you just lob those softballs right up there for me on purpose. Thanks, buddy.
     
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    Maybe the department has learned the lesson of Ferguson that if you release the cop's name and it turns out he is innocent, his life has been ruined for nothing. Complete the investigation first, then release the cop's name if he is found to be criminally culpable, like they should have done in Ferguson.
     
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    How is this for percentages of population?

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    Blacks, in other words, committed 85 percent of the non-homicide interracial crimes of violence between blacks and whites, even though they are less than 13 percent of the population.

    *Source: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf

    *(The Bureau of Justice Statistics stopped publishing its table on interracial crime after 2008, perhaps not coincidentally, the first year of the Obama presidency. The agency explains its decision on the ground that some of the estimates in particular crime categories, such as sexual assault, are based on sample sizes that are too small to be statistically reliable. But that is no reason not to tabulate data on the crimes for which reliable estimates are available.)
     
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    Yeah, that's pretty screwed up. You should juxtapose those figures with income and poverty figures. Why do you think the numbers are like that and what are constructive ways to address it?
     
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    Good video, I already have the new jim crow in my audible collection. Listen to it two years ago.
     
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