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Police Shot South of Tacoma, WA

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Breaking News from the AP

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34194122/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

    Multiple police officers shot in Wash. state
    Report: Shootings happened at coffee shop south of Tacoma

    PARKLAND, Wash. - A Washington state official says multiple police officers have been shot in Pierce County.

    Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer told KOMO-TV that the officers were hit at about 8:30 a.m. Sunday.

    KING-TV reported the shootings occurred in the Lakewood area south of Tacoma, at a coffee shop on Steele Street.

    No information was immediately available on the number of officers shot or the extent of their injuries.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    Here's some more information. Four officers dead in an ambush at a coffee shop with the suspect still at large. Haven't seen anything on motive yet.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34194122/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001

    4 police officers killed in Wash. coffee shop
    Sheriff's official: Gunman opened fire in 'execution'-style attack

    PARKLAND, Wash. - A gunman walked into a coffee shop and shot and killed four police officers Sunday morning in what sheriff's officials described as an "execution."

    The officers were sitting in the cafe at a strip mall near the Tacoma suburb of Parkland with their laptop computers, preparing for their day shifts, when a man came in and opened fire, Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said.

    The officers were obviously targeted because they were in full uniform and no one else was shot at, Troyer said.

    "This was more of an execution. He walked in with the mind of shooting police officers," Troyer said.

    It wasn't immediately known if any of the officers were able to return fire. They were declared dead at the scene.

    Troyer said two employees and a few customers were in the Forza Coffee shop at the time but no one else was hurt. "As you can imagine they are all traumatized," Troyer said.

    Authorities scoured the area for the gunman, who is believed to have fled on foot or by car. The suspect was described as a "scruffy"-looking black man in his 20s or 30s, 5 feet 7 to 5 feet 10, wearing a black coat ands blue jeans.

    "We are in the process of searching multiple locations," Troyer said.

    Nearby McChord Air Force Base was put on alert.

    No advance threats
    The victims were three males and one female, all officers with the Lakewood Police Department southwest of Tacoma, Troyer said.

    There were no specific advance threats against the officers, Troyer said.

    A $10,000 reward was being offered for information leading to those responsible.

    Brad Carpenter, the founder of Forza Coffee, is a retired police officer himself, NBC News reported. Carpenter started Forza in 2002 and now has 21 stores, primarily in the Tacoma area.

    Troyer said there was no known link between the Pierce County slayings and the Oct. 31 fatal shooting of a Seattle police officer who was ambushed as he sat in a parked patrol car with a rookie partner on a Seattle street.

    Christopher John Monfort, 41, is charged with aggravated first-degree murder and attempted murder in that shooting. Monfort is also charged with arson and attempted first-degree murder for an October firebombing at a Seattle maintenance yard that damaged several police vehicles.
     
  3. Kim

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    That's terrible. :(
    And that method of death, getting caught off-guard doing nothing like just hanging at a coffee shop is always so messed up imo.
     
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    He was looking for Sarah Conner.
     
  5. studogg

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    don't feed the trolls
     
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    Very funny. Not.
     
  8. Fyreball

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    Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you??
     
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    And you're asking this about someone who cries if people rag on him for his 3 AM drunken posts about the relationships he screws up, yet can't understand why people get offended when he makes fun of innocent individuals being brutally murdered? Some things defy explanation.
     
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  10. rocketsjudoka

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    Well it looks like this thread has been derailed.

    In the latest news that I saw it sounds like the shooter is still at large but they have a person of interest.
     
  11. vaioavan63

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    Is Mr. Fatty banned? Wanted to leave some rep but it tells me that I need to spread reputation. Weird, cause I haven't repped him for a while.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    This whole tragedy might be over as apparently the shooter was cornered and possibly killed.

    In a tangential note this was brought up in a D&D thread that the shooter had his sentence commuted by former Arkansas gov. Mike Huckabee and this might be do in any future presidential aspirations.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34194122/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

    Cops: Suspect in officer killings may be dead
    Seattle house surrounded after gunman slays 4 officers in coffee shop
    NBC News and news services
    updated 37 minutes ago
    SEATTLE - A suspect in the slaying of four police officers gunned down in a suburban coffee shop was in a Seattle house early Monday, wounded and possibly dead, police said.

    Negotiators were trying to communicate with Maurice Clemmons, 37, using loudspeakers and explosions to try to prod him from hiding. At one point, gunshots rang through the neighborhood, which is some 30 miles from the original crime scene.

    "We have determined that in fact he has been shot," said Ed Troyer, a spokesman for the Pierce County Sheriff. "He may be deceased from his gunshot wound."

    NBC News reported Monday that police had not been able to make contact with Clemmons.

    Authorities had speculated early Sunday that the gunman might have been wounded at the coffee shop by one of his victims. Troyer said interviews with others detained in the investigation confirmed that theory.

    'We are not going away'
    Police surrounded the house late Sunday, and a negotiator used a loudspeaker early Monday to call him out by name, saying: "Mr. Clemmons, I'd like to get you out of there safely. I can tell you this, we are not going away."

    Any response from inside the house was inaudible from the vantage of a photographer for The Associated Press. But shortly thereafter, police began using sirens outside the house, and there were several loud bangs before the negotiator resumed speaking, saying: "This is one of the toughest decisions you'll make in your life, but you need to man up."

    By 3 a.m. Pacific time, the loudspeakers and explosions had fallen silent.

    Clemmons, 37, who had a lengthy prison sentence commuted by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee nearly a decade ago, became the prime target Sunday in the search for the killer of Lakewood Police Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39; and Officers Ronald Owens, 37; Tina Griswold, 40; and Greg Richards 42.

    Clemmons is believed to have been in the area around the time of the shooting, but Troyer declined to say what evidence might link him to the shooting.

    On Sunday, Huckabee deflected blame with a statement on his Web site.

    "Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State," he wrote.

    Investigators say they know of no reason that Clemmons or anyone else might have had to open fire on the four as they sat working on their laptops early Sunday morning, catching up on paperwork at the beginning of their shifts.

    "We're going to be surprised if there is a motive worth mentioning," said Troyer, who sketched out a scene of controlled and deliberate carnage that spared the employees and other customers at the coffee shop in suburban Parkland, south of Seattle.

    "He was very versed with the weapon," Troyer said. "This wasn't something where the windows were shot up and there bullets sprayed around the place. The bullets hit their targets."

    Extensive criminal history
    Officer Richards' sister-in-law, Melanie Burwell, called the shooting "senseless."

    "He didn't have a mean bone in his body," she said. "If there were more people in the world like Greg, things like this wouldn't happen.

    Clemmons has an extensive violent criminal history from Arkansas. He also recently was arrested and charged in Washington state for assaulting a police officer, and second-degree rape of a child. Using a bail bondsman, he posted $150,000 — only $15,000 of his own money — and was released from jail last week.

    Documents related to the pending charges in Washington state indicate an unstable and volatile personality. In one instance, he is accused of punching a sheriff's deputy in the face, The Seattle Times reported. In another, he is accused of gathering his wife and young relatives and forcing them to undress, according to a Pierce County sheriff's report.

    "The whole time Clemmons kept saying things like trust him, the world is going to end soon, and that he was Jesus," the report said.

    Troyer said investigators believe two of the officers were killed while sitting in the shop, and a third was shot dead after standing up. The fourth apparently "gave up a good fight."

    "We believe there was a struggle, a commotion, a fight ... that he fought the guy all the way out the door," Troyer said.

    In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after Huckabee commuted a 95-year prison sentence. Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for granting many clemencies and commutations, cited Clemmons' youth. Clemmons later violated his parole, was returned to prison and released in 2004.

    There was no indication of any connection between Sunday's killings and the Halloween night shooting of a Seattle police officer.

    Authorities say theman charged with that shooting also firebombed four police vehicles in October as part of a "one-man war" against law enforcement. Christopher Monfort, 41, was arrested after being wounded in a firefight with police days after the Seattle shooting.

    The officers killed Sunday had received no threats, sheriff's officials said.

    "We won't know if it's a copycat effect or what it was until we get the case solved," Troyer said.
     
  13. Surfguy

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    A loser with a mental disorder. So, what else is new? These types of people will never be stopped before they do stuff like this...only after. This isn't a Tom Cruise movie with some weird pre-crime characters in a hot tub directing little red balls on who is next.
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    Unfortunately you are probably right.
     
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    I don't even think it is an option if they are banned.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    This thing is getting crazier. According to NPR the shooter has now been spotted at the University of Washington and police are searching the campus for him.
     
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    Wait I'm confused. So if that really is the shooter did they kill the wrong guy? :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  18. across110thstreet

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    wtf, msnbc? how can they go from printing this:

    to reporting this the next day:
     
  19. Cokebabies

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    Something sounds shady about the whole thing. How did they identify and find him so fast? And then end up letting him escape?

    Supposedly he is mentally crazy but he has the killing efficiency of mob hit man and there were other customers inside the coffee shop but he didn't attack anyone else. I don't know, it all just doesn't add up for me.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    Apparently the house they had him cornered in he either wasn't in or had escaped. This situation is not looking good at all for the Washington state and local police.
     

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