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Police Raid Club Over Nude 'Art Night'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by No Worries, Apr 6, 2005.

  1. No Worries

    No Worries Contributing Member

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    This is so down right un-American. Just when these middle age old foggies try to expand their horizons by taking art class at night school, the G men shut them down.

    Police Raid Club Over Nude 'Art Night'
    Apr 6, 9:36 AM (ET)

    BOISE, Idaho (Reuters) - An Idaho strip club that attempted to get around a ban on full nudity by giving patrons sketch pads for special "art nights" was cited for violating the city's nudity rules, officials said on Tuesday.

    The citation was issued on Monday night to the Erotic City Gentleman's Club in Boise, Idaho.

    Boise allows full nudity for "serious artistic" expression only, so the club handed out pencils and sketch pads to patrons so they could sketch naked women.

    A police spokeswoman said officials concluded, however, that patrons were not focused on art, so officers cited three dancers for violations of the city nudity ordinance. "The case is being reviewed by the Boise city attorney for the possibility of future citations," said spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

    Erotic City owner Chris Teague called the citations a violation of the civil rights of the dancers, as well as an "insult to the patrons." But the club would suspend 'art night' until the matter was settled in court.
     
  2. MR. MEOWGI

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    Were you being sarcastic?

    I think that none fully nude law is pure crap as well, but come on, that was a pretty lame attempt at getting around the current law.
     
  4. Sishir Chang

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    Its hard to sketch when the models dance around a pole or on other artists laps.
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    It sucks that the dancers get the citations and not the club.
     
  6. JeeberD

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    Here's an article from a month ago about this place. Sounds like they got away with it for a good while before the damn coppers decided to become jerks...

     
  7. No Worries

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    These are the type of sacrifices one must make for "serious art".
     
  8. RocketMan Tex

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    Freaking Utah...whaddya expect.

    I think someone could make some $$$ lining up travel packages for repressed Utah men to come to Houston and drop big cash at Treasures.

    Anybody want to go into business with me?

    :D
     
  9. No Worries

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    Vegas, Taho, and Reno are closer, but damn good business idea.
     
  10. Sishir Chang

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    From my understanding don't strippers work as independent contractors who pay a portion of their tips back to the club?
     
  11. Sishir Chang

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    Except wasn't this Idaho?

    For anyone who drives through Utah right on the Nevada - Utah border there's casinos, bars, liquor stores and strip clubs right at the border. When you're driving at night you can see the glow a long ways away across the Bonneville Salt Flats.
     
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    Even if this was not a law, which it is, I'm afraid I would have a lot of difficulty endorsing an enterprise which is as fraught with genuine peril as I believe this one to be. Besides the liquor and the drugs which always seem to accompany such an event the thing that distresses me even more, Ren, is the spiritual corruption that can be involved. These dances and this kind of music can be destructive, and, uh, Ren, I'm afraid you're going to find most of the people in our community are gonna agree with me on this. Seems that a bunch of kids was raising some hell over at Burlington Cranton's property a few days back. Tore up the fields, turned over a tractor and everything. Today someone suggested to me there's been some trouble up at the high school. I think it was drugs. You don't happen to know anything about it do you.
     
  13. Moe

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    There was a picture of a sketch by a patron in today's Boise Statesman. It was a view from the rear and was actually quite good. Maybe they brought in a ringer.
     
  14. No Worries

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    I have it on the down low that this is the root of troubles :

    Law may punish Texas cheerleaders for racy routines
    By KATHERINE CROMER

    Fort Worth Star-Telegram

    FORT WORTH, Texas - Dirty dancing may fly on MTV, but cheerleaders and dance team members better keep their routines clean.

    For six years, the National Cheerleaders Association has penalized squads that include vulgar or suggestive movements in their competition routines.

    Now, a Houston lawmaker has filed a bill in the Texas Legislature that would exact an even higher price for pushing it too far, a move that some area cheer and some dance experts say they support.

    But others wonder who could enforce such a subjective standard.

    "I'm a dancer," said Kay Lynn Renfro, director of the Grapevine High School Fillies drill team. "There are many things to me that there is nothing about it that is sexual or explicit, but to someone else watching, it may be."

    The bill filed by state Rep. Al Edwards, D-Houston, would ban "sexually suggestive" performances by school dance teams, drill teams and cheerleaders at athletic events or competitions. A squad that performs an inappropriate routine could be banned from performing for the rest of the school year, and the district or campus could be fined.

    "I don't think that children should think that they can do these sexually oriented types of marches or dances," Edwards said last week. "And that's when they get the most cheering from all the young people in the stands.

    "Let's not have our young girls being exploited this way in our school districts."

    Edwards said he has seen explicit dancing on high school football fields, particularly from cheerleaders and "majorettes," and decided that it "needs to be dealt with." He said it is not a personal issue for him or his family.

    It was unclear late last week how much support Edwards' bill would garner in the Texas House. In the past, he has introduced bills that generated headlines but not much support from his legislative colleagues.

    In 1989, he proposed allowing the state to amputate the fingers of drug dealers. And in 1991, he introduced a bill calling for a statewide vote on allowing corporal punishment of inmates in state prisons, saying that such disciplinary measures as flogging would help rehabilitate prisoners.

    Edwards' proposed ban on suggestive dancing is short on specifics, such as defining what is suggestive, who would judge appropriateness of dance moves and the amounts of fines.

    Describing what he considers inappropriate cheerleading moves, Edwards paraphrased the late Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's 1964 definition of obscenity: "We know it when we see it."

    NCA competition guidelines define vulgar movements as "hip thrusting, inappropriate touching/slapping/positioning to one another."

    Most people don't want to see such moves, said Jason Dollar, an award-winning cheer choreographer and owner of the Pride All-Stars competitive cheerleading team, based in Addison, Texas

    "I personally find it tacky," Dollar said. "Nobody wants to see it."

    But he conceded that defining suggestiveness is subjective. Two teams may have identical moves, but one team may seem more suggestive "depending on how they carry themselves and the expressions they have," he said.

    That's why Tiffany Littlejohn, head coach of the Mansfield High School cheerleading squad, avoids anything that might cross the line between fun and filthy.

    "In a way, I agree with him," Littlejohn said of Edwards. Her team's professionally choreographed routines have included the music of Elvis Presley and Barry Manilow.

    Raunchy music can lead to raunchy moves, Littlejohn said, and some squads use music that must have improper language bleeped out or replaced by sound effects to avoid a violation of NCA competition rules.

    "Even in the edited versions, it's still suggesting things," Littlejohn said. "I'm very careful about that. Personally, I don't want to be embarrassed, and they're a reflection of me."

    Martha Selman, NCA communications director, said there might be fewer problems with suggestive dance moves if cheerleading sponsors, many of whom are classroom teachers with no prior experience who are drafted to coach a squad, are properly trained in what is acceptable.

    "Look at Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears," Selman said. "That's entertainment, and this is cheerleading. The purpose of cheerleading is to be the peer leaders and ambassadors for their school."
     
  15. JuanValdez

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    :eek:
     
  16. MadMax

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    this is just brilliant!!!!!! took me a second to catch on. but brilliant!!!

    my wife and i watched a bit of this the other day...and i looked over at her at one point and said, "i'm kinda embarassed to sit here and watch this." :D
     
  17. RocketMan Tex

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    Idaho, Utah....isn't it all one big state between Colorado, California, Arizona and Canada?

    :eek: ;) :D
     
  18. Moe

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    No.
     

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