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Players that fit Morey's philosophy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OTMax, Feb 8, 2016.

  1. JazzLakerHater

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    **** Morey's philosophy. We need to get high iq players who can either shoot or pass. We have too many dumbass low iq players who can't shoot or pass. I'm so sick of watching players on this team sit around on offense an do nothing and not getting their lazy assess back on defense. We need smart players who give a damn!
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    and bricked 3 pters. Those players tend to gravitate toward's Morey's radar.
     
  3. joshuaao

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    Versatile defensive players that can switch seamlessly. For whatever reason, the Rockets switch on EVERY screen (personally, I think Harden's lazy D is a big reason why we have this philosophy).

    Ariza, DMo, JSmoove, Capela can do it.

    Harden can't guard anybody, Brewer just gambles for the steal every time, Bev plays 94 feet but gets blown by in the most important 20 feet, TJones has zero defensive awareness, Thornton is too busy thinking of the next shot to chuck up, Terry moves like he's in molasses. It's no wonder we're so abysmal defensively
     
  4. jordnnnn

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    This year we are 7th in offensive efficiency at 107.0 points per 100 possessions.

    Last year we were 12th in offensive efficiency at 107.0 points per 100 possessions.
     
  5. J Hard

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    This whole team from the front office to the horrible puppet coaching selection to the players is all moreys blame.

    He deserves all the blame, harden is soft but we knew that when he choked in the finals with OKC, he'll never change, cant expect a player who willingly and happily played 3rd fiddle to 2 other guys to have alpha dog drive to lead a championship team.

    These are all morey blunders and its time for a ''the day morey lost the city of houston'' thread, ya hypocrites.
     
  6. hakeemthagreat

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    Morey doesn't need players who fit his system. He needs a new system. Moreyball has turned into a gimmick offense. Teams have figured it out and have created better versions of it
     
  7. LabMouse

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    All players on GS fit Morey's philosophy, so we should make a big effort to exchange our players with them.
     
  8. Nook

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    What players fit the Rockets system are different than even a few years ago. For example, the Rockets want post players (PF/C) that are very skilled and can do a lot of things, which is different than even a year or two ago. The league is changing quickly.

    I also think that as the league has changed, you will see fewer specialists.

    It is like Coach Thibs said a few years ago... in an interview someone asked him if he wanted 3 point specialists, rebounding bigs or scorers..... half bewildered he said "All I want and good, smart players."
     
  9. ibm

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    say what? morey has a philosophy? last time i checked, his "philosophy" is a simple formula: mathematically, 33% on 3's = 50% on 2's.

    and,,, that's it.

    oh did i mention the freebies? that too...
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Bless your heart, another person who focuses on the offensive side.
     
  11. dmoneybangbang

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    ....bless your heart too.
     
  12. RV6

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    Too much over thinking...


    Morey wanted a third star..knew we needed it...then that turned into a second one because Howard didn't bounce back completely.

    So the priority isn't acquiring the right or best role players because that would require longer commitments or higher prices, which reduces flexibility to get that second star.

    There's no question we need that other impact player, so I get it...but it creates a lot of frustration watching these guys struggle.
     
  13. aelliott

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    Yet the Rockets offense is the 7th most efficient offense (1.042 pts/possession) in the NBA and that's not a volume statistic. Everyone agrees that we don't have elite 3 point shooters yet we're one of the most efficient offenses in the league. Why do you think that is? It's because of the offense focusing on high efficiency shots.

    As far as turnovers and long rebounds generating fastbreaks, the Rockets opponents score 13.9 pts per game in transition. To compare the other teams, Philly leads the league allowing 17.0 pts on opponents fastbreaks and Miami is the lowest in the league at 10 pts/game.

    How about the teams with the best records? Golden State 15.0/game, OKC 12.6, Clippers 11.7, Toronto 11.4, SA 11.3 and Cleveland 10.4. That's not a big difference.

    People have this idea that Houston's offense requires elite 3 point shooting but it doesn't. The whole philosophy of 3's, layups and free throws is based on the idea that if the team is even a slightly below average 3 point shooting team then it will still be efficient taking those shots.

    Would our offense be better with elite 3 point shooters? Sure it would. Any offense would be better if you improve the shooting. Even at our current level of shooters we are still one of the most efficient teams in the league so I you don't like our shooters then you'll have to credit the system for that efficiency.

    Our problem is defense, not offense.
     
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    You might want to look into True Shooting Percentage.
     
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    C.J. McCollum
    Chandler Parsons :p
    Eric Bledsoe
    Kyle Korver
    DeMarre Carroll
    Matthew Delladova
    Khris Middleton
    Will Barton
    Doug McDermott
    Terrence Ross
    Courtney Lee
    George Hill (backup, very average FT shooter)
    Gary Neal
     
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    Arron Affalo
     
  17. rocketsballin

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    we need more bricksters. the original brick bros aint cuttin it no more. kobe would be excellent. 15pts on 25shots.
     
  18. Alvin Choo

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    Langston Galloway

    Heck I will say this again, Langston Galloway may be the Derek Fisher/ Ron Harper that Harden needs.

    Oh and pipe dream, Cousins and Harrison Barns.
     
  19. Ronkol

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    The argument is that misses hurt Rockets more than other teams. The stats certainly indicate this by allowed points per minute and FG%/3p% of opponents.

    I think this will be hard to proof with stats. On the one hand you could argue that's basically a defense problem, on the other hand it's certainly true that this leads to transitional defense issues. (Both stats and eyeball are quite harsh here)

    In the end this remains a defensive issue, but it's not that strange to think our offense is suspect in causing more defensive problems.
     
  20. aelliott

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    The original claims were that missed shots and turnovers led to transition baskets for oponents. The problem is that we don't allow many more points in transition than most of the good teams.

    If we were giving up significantly more points in transition than other teams then that theory might be true but the fact is that we dont.
     

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