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Phil Rogers is wondering if the Astros would trade Clemens to the Cubs????

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by BSW, May 3, 2005.

  1. BSW

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    Phil Rogers from the good old Tribune up in Chicago is smoking some really good stuff.....

    :eek:
    • Wonder if there's any way the Astros would trade Roger Clemens to the Cubs? He's almost certainly going to be somewhere else by the end of July as the Astros don't have enough solid hitters to become a serious contender.

    Houston has lost the Rocket's last four starts by scores of 1-0, 1-0, 1-0 and 3-2. This is the same pattern that ended Randy Johnson's stay in Arizona.

    http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...n?coll=cs-whitesox-utility&ctrack=2&cset=true
     
  2. BSW

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    Did he happen to watch the Astros take 2 of 3 against his Cubs this past weekend without Berkman and without much of a bench or our closer due to the flu???

    What an idiot!
     
  3. Joe Joe

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    Wonder if there's any way the Cubs would trade Mark Prior to the Astros? He's almost certainly going to be somewhere else by the end of July as the Cubs don't have enough solid hitters to become a serious contender.
     
  4. BSW

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    Oh no....we are a game behind from the Cubs. We should just thrown in the towel, because they never fall apart! :rolleyes:
     
  5. msn

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    Outstanding!
     
  6. NJRocket

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    Prior or Wood will be a Yankee before Clemens would ever become a Cub.
     
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    And for all the talking heads saying Clemens will end up with the Yankees this season, the Astros currently have a better record and are fewer games out of first place than the Yankees. Why do these people just assume its a foregone conclusion? (Please note that this is a rhetorical question. I know all about East Coast Media bias...)
     
  8. NJRocket

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    You aren't wrong...BUT, if you had to bet on one of the 2 teams (Astros or Yanks) turning things around and making the playoffs, you would probably bet on them....which is why people speculate that he would go there.

    Also, there is that alleged story that Clemens has a handshake deal with Drayton that he would trade him to either the Yanks or Red Sox if the Astros fall out of the race.
     
  9. Nick

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    Any sentence that has both the words "alleged" and "handshake deal" in it automatically registers as blank nothings in my brain, so I had to re-read that about 20 times.

    Are you going to name your source, or does this have to be a Stern vs. JVG thing??? :D

    Honestly... Phil Rogers can go on writing this garbage... I'm still waiting for his annual "The Cubs are in a much better position (long term) than the Cardinals" column that always seems to coincide with a Cubs flop to end the season.

    Seriously... why do the Cubs get THIS much attention. Sure, they won the division 2 years ago, but they didn't even win 90 games. Thus, it took two teams playing awful baseball down the stretch (astros and Cardinals) for them to sneak in. Then, they beat the Braves in 5 (which everybody seems to do, nowadays), and choke it up big-time to the Marlins.

    Last year, they were awful as well.... and I don't want to hear the line that they had injuries, because when they got Prior and Wood back at full strength, they were very much in the driver's seat in the wild card race.

    In the end... no matter who's managing them... esp. that ingrate Dusty.. the Cubs will always be one useless franchise.
     
  10. NJRocket

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    its been discussed on 610 numerous times....especially right after he signed
     
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    but it's never discussed with any credibility..it's just lobbed out there..and then denied by all the parties. it is a rumor...nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    never been denied by clemens or drayton that i can remember....only richard justice has said its a joke...

    overall, i cant see it being the first thing clemens discussed after he signed...but its not such a far fetched idea when you look at the situation closely
     
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    i thought i heard clemens deny it.
     
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    I thought I heard Clemens and Drayton deny it.
     
  15. Nick

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    Actually, it does seem pretty far-fetched.

    Roger didn't have to come out of retirement, and he decided to to do so last year because we had Andy, and he wanted to see what it was like to pitch in his hometown.

    After last year, he could have written his own ticket anywhere.... sure, he wanted to give it an actual go with Andy, but in all likelihood, if he wanted to sign elsewhere, he would have.

    To just decide at mid-season that he's going to want to pitch up in NY or Boston again seems pretty ludicrous... and if winning more rings for those teams is really on his agenda (or wish list), why did he retire from the Yankees in the first place?
     
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    It doesn't seem far fetched at all. Clemens is the single most competitive guy on the planet. If had a chance to go pitch up north for 8 weeks and win another ring, he would do it in a heartbeat.

    It wouldnt shock me if he has a limited no trade clause and Boston and NY are the only teams on the list.

    Again, I dont think it will come to that...but its not far fetched at all.
     
  17. msn

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    I bet you Clemens will only pitch for teams that have a demonstrable and well-reasoned Plan B. :D
     
  18. MadMax

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    what's Cashman's Plan B?? :)

    particularly with Randy hitting the DL soon, reportedly.
     
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    Does anybody else think "suicide" when they see that guy? He's under such immense pressure... I bet you he resigns before this year is over, if the Yankees continue to flounder like this (even though its not his fault that guys are not producing like they have in the past).
     

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