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Pending divorce between Deron Williams and Nets?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SHOKI3, May 16, 2014.

  1. K-Low_4_Prez

    K-Low_4_Prez Member

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    I would do that trade but i really dont want D Will anymore...
     
  2. JMAD21

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    I'd be happy with that. That is if we can't get rondo...

    Dwill is still really good, maybe not what he once was... But you never what a new situation can do for someone.
     
  3. tr3yzle

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    they could be a great partner for a 3 team deal.
     
  4. Chamillionaire

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    Not sure what he's got in the tank, but he's contract is albatross and his production has progressed, a lot.

    DO NOT WANT! (But we need to get rid of Lin.)
     
  5. haydenfisher342

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    Getting Dwill doesnt make sense for the future, he will be used for someone else if we do get him
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    1. As some of us have mentioned, there are likely more desirable and less risky available options than Deron Williams.

    2. Even if none of these other options (Melo, Bosh, Rondo, Love, Patterson, etc.) materializes over the summer, the Rockets are still most likely better off just holding onto the expiring contract of Lin and Asik plus other assets and make a run at an upgrade during the season/at the trade deadline or, if need be, in summer 2015 when Lin+Asik come off the books and the team can have actual cap room.

    Betting on Deron Williams right now is like taking a contested 3 early in the shot clock with nobody to rebound. Might do it if you are really desperate, but I don't think the risk/reward profile is a good fit right now.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    agreed . . I have cooled alot on DWill
    mainly because his contract.

    If we pull the trigger on it . .. you better be right
    cause
    Harden/Howard/Dwill will be the center of this team for 3 yrs

    Rocket River
     
  8. JoeBarelyCares

    JoeBarelyCares Contributing Member

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    DWill for Josh Smith and Jennings would be a fair trade of bad contracts.
     
  9. Francis3422

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    Patterson.... lol..
     
  10. HOUSTONROCKETS5

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  11. fluors

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    2013-2014 Defensive Real Plus Minus (DRPM) stats for Deron Williams , Patrick Beverley, Jeremy Lin, James Harden, Chandler Parsons, Terrence Jones, Dwight Howard and Asik via ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/1

    Name-----------------DRTG-------Rank (total # of PGs=87; #SG = 90; #SF = 80; #PF = 90; #C = 81).
    Patrick Beverley-----+1.30-----(7th of 87)
    Jeremy Lin-----------+0.30-----(18th of 87)
    Deron Williams--------1.73-----(54th of 87)
    Isaiah Canaan---------3.06-----(72nd of 87)

    Troy Daniels-----------1.52-----(58th of 90)
    James Harden---------2.82-----(78th of 90)

    Chandler Parsons-----+0.57-----(25th of 80)

    Terrence Jones------ -1.92-----(84th of 81)

    Dwight Howard-------+4.91-----(5th of 81)
    Omer Asik------------+4.82------(6th of 81)

    Current Starting Five (with two negative defenders):
    Dwight (+4.92), TJones (-1.92), Chandler (+0.57), Harden (-2.82), Beverley (+1.30)
    Starting Five With DWill (would have three negative defenders; much worse):
    Dwight (+4.92), TJones (-1.92), Chandler (+0.57), Harden (-2.82), DWill (-1.73)

    Current Three Guard Line-up (one negative defender):
    Beverley (+1.30), Lin (+0.30), Harden (-2.82)
    Three Guard Lineup with DWill (two negative defenders)
    Beverley (+1.30), DWill (-1.73), Harden (-2.82)

    2013-2014 Regular Season DefRtgs from NBA.com http://stats.nba.com/teamPlayers.html?TeamID=1610612745&MeasureType=Advanced&PerMode=PerGame

    Patrick Beverely = 101.8
    Jeremy Lin = 102.0
    Omer Asik = 102.1
    Dwight Howard = 102.2
    James Harden= 103.1
    Deron Williams = 103.1
    Chandler Parsons = 104
    Troy Daniels = 104.8
    Terrence Jones=105.8
    Isaiah Canaan=109.7

    Same Result: DWill is a worse defender than Patrick Beverley and Jeremy Lin. DWill has slightly better offensive numbers but is a far worse defender than Beverley or Lin. If Dwill is acquired, the Rockets would start three negative defenders: Harden (-2.82), Dwill (-1.73), and TJones (-1.92), so DWill's offense and floor leadership will need to be very good to make up for that.
     
  12. fluors

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    Edited To Add via NBA.com DefRTg: Forgot to hit the return bar to separate Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik:

    Jeremy Lin=102.0
    Omer Asik=102.1
     
  13. 08kx250f

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    Why does this nobody sign DD .. No one cares your name.
     
  14. fluors

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    Edited To Add via ESPN's DRTG: Terrence Jones is 84th of 90.
     
  15. topfive

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    Here's a recent picture of DWill:
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  16. EightDoobies

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    No. No and NO.
     
  17. BMoney

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    Hush your mouth.
     
  18. CometsWin

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    Patterson... Lol
     
  19. val_modus

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    If you want to win, then you have no choice BUT to care about the cap. Having cap flexibility to make roster adjustments is absolutely key in forming a championship team. Deron Williams' 60 million over the next three years basically diminishes any flexibility we have. On the other side, we also the best backup center in the NBA who happens to be one of the most prized trade baits this summer.
     
  20. roslolian

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    Winning and cap management go hand in hand. Your thinking is the exact same reason New Jersey Nets paid 200M for a 2nd round exit.

    To be honest though, I think this thread is a waste of space,DM and Les Alexander are way too smart to even consider adding D-Will to this team. Dude has all the red flags in the world: Max contract, Trade kicker, getting old, low stats, no D, no motivation and he keeps getting injuries around his ankles. I mean seriously, I have a hard time thinking of a worse contract in the NBA, it's not like we still have dudes like Eddy Curry signed to max somewhere, the NBA as a whole has "wizened up" and you generally don't see completely useless players signed to big money anymore.
     

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