Pat Mahomes, the savior.

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  1. King1

    King1 Contributing Member

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    Josh Freeman 2.0
     
  2. Bäumer

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    In Rick Smith I trust.
     
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    Love his confidence, love his arm but if Bo'B is still here they probably won't
     
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    If they draft a QB in the first round, he's be playing.
     
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    This is not your typical air raid qb. The only real question with him is can he stay "on script"? He improvised a lot in college..he needs a more methodical approach.

    Otherwise, he's got everything you'd expect to see in a first round qb. Cannon arm, touch, accuracy, size, mobility, etc. There isn't a throw he can't make.

    By the time the draft comes around, he should be a top 10 pick based on upside alone. I'd love to hear a reasonable argument that he shouldn't.
     
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    mahomes has freeman written all over him, i like his physical tools, not sure he has the arm talent of watson or kizer... if all 3 will be undervalued like prescott a year ago im going watson, kizer, dobbs, mahomes in that order
     
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    This is just like his "Can't Win With Osweiler" thread. Was intentionally vague with no substance and research to it. Just throwing out bold conclusions with nothing behind it, just to make things "interesting".

    Ended up being a 500 page thread anyway.
     
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    trade up for him in the 2nd and let brock and savage battle it out for game 1 (read: savage will win the job)
     
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    what makes this guy any different from graham harrell or other run and shoot qb

    kyle kingsbury is running the same offense its he has a qb that runs a little bit
     
  11. HardenTime

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    Rick Smith doesnt make decisions on qbs
     
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    Not black enough for you?
     
  13. EddieWasSnubbed

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    Who is Kyle Kingsbury?
     
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    deshone kizer has a white mom too, race means nothing to me

    your talking about a qb in mahomes who was largely in a run a shoot offense, he is a poors mans josh freeman.. he has some physical tools but not like kizer, and def doesnt have the same arm talent.. know some of the posters on clutchfans they probably like mahomes because he looks like steph curry







     
  15. HardenTime

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    i meant kliff.. phone autocorrected and i didnt notice
     
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  16. HardenTime

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    btw kizer is a steve mcnair/ russell wilson hybrid.. he is a prototype.. the texans would be lucky to get him


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...pare-nfl-comp-for-notre-dame-qb-deshone-kizer


    Dare to Compare: NFL comp for Notre Dame QB DeShone Kizer

    • By Lance Zierlein
    • NFL Media draft analyst


    I traveled to South Bend, Ind., a year ago to scout a loaded Notre Dame team as it took on an overmatched Texas squad. The Fighting Irish rolled the Longhorns, 38-3, thanks in part to the work of quarterback Malik Zaire.


    However, a week later, Zaire was lost for the season due to injury and DeShone Kizer stepped into the starting QB spot for the remainder of the season.

    Here is a scouting report and NFL-player comp for Kizer based on previous film study and my scouting notes from Kizer's game

    Strengths

    Kizer has the prototypical build of an NFL quarterback. He has the height to stand tall in the pocket (6-foot-4, per school measurements), and possesses the muscular definition and thickness of frame that scouts covet. Kizer excelled in three sports in high school and has the poise and confidence of a player used to succeeding and performing at a high level.

    Kizer has more than enough arm strength and is able to attack all three levels of the field. He throws with decent touch and is unafraid to challenge safeties with intermediate and deep throws. Kizer operates seamlessly between pocket passer and zone-read quarterback. He's able to run with conviction when asked. Against Texas, he never appeared to press and showed plus pocket awareness and poise throughout the game.

    Weaknesses


    Kizer has plus zip on his throws, but there are times when he's overly reliant on arm strength over mechanics to generate that velocity. Kizer needs to sit down and drive the ball with his lower half to create better consistency of velocity as well as accuracy.

    Speaking of accuracy, one area of improvement for Kizer is ball placement. I would like to see him lead receivers more frequently on his slants and crossing routes. There were also throws that came up a little short.


    NFL comp: Steve McNair



    My comparison for Kizer, a redshirt sophomore, is still a work in progress, but from a size and diversity of talent standpoint, he reminds me of the late Steve McNair. While McNair was more of a game manager in the pros, he was a gunslinger at Alcorn State. McNair had a very pedestrian yards-per-attempt average (6.9) in the pros, but "Air McNair" had the ability to push the ball down the field, especially coming out of college. Kizer has that same arm strength to attack down the field and can make winning throws on the move.

    What really stands out to me is the mental makeup and toughness of Kizer in comparison to McNair. McNair was extremely difficult to rattle and Kizer appears to operate with that same confidence and calm. While McNair could beat teams with his legs, he looked to win from the pocket and I believe Kizer has that same trait.


     
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    Funniest comment in the history of this board.
     
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    I certainly need to do my research on him, but the descriptions I've heard on him make me think Obrien will like him.

    I also feel like he or Watson will fall a bit in the draft, to where they will be attainable for us.
     
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    Kizer is a way better option but not sure he falls to us which means you need to execute a trade.
     
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    Mahomes has a 4-1 touchdown/interception ratio as compared to Kizer's 2-1.
     
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