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[Official] Week 4 Titans @ Texans

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Sep 26, 2017.

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    The first 8 threads all have 'Deshaun Watson' in the title :D
     
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    We might all be gay.
     
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    This is why we can't have nice things
     
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    @Castor27 best get a week 5 game thread up before some newb jumps on it.
     
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    Just trade for Kenny vaccaro already damn
     
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    Inside the NFL Show.

    "Houston finally got their superstar QB"

    All 3 panelist picked Houston to beat KC.
     
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    The O-line is getting better every week.
     
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    Just curious what would you think we offer ?
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...ates-including-return-package-likelihood-deal

    Adrian Peterson, RB, New Orleans Saints
    The 32-year-old Peterson has yet to carry more than nine times in a game this season. He's accustomed to being The Guy, but he's no longer perceived as good enough for a team to build its offense around him at the expense of his limitations in the passing game. That's why execs thought Peterson had almost no trade value at age 32.

    "Peterson had no market in March and hasn't shown he's worth much now," an insider said. "I don't know who would want him now."

    Malcolm Butler, CB, New England Patriots
    A defense playing as poorly as the Patriots' is playing wouldn't seem to be in position to subtract talent, but New England almost always keeps its long-term strategic interests in mind. After seeking a first-round pick for Butler in the offseason, the Patriots almost surely would have to settle for much less now.

    "You would have to make the trade and also have the agreement in place for the extension," an exec said. "It will be tough. They got a four that can go to a three for Jamie Collins, and this is the same thing."

    Asked about another corner, insiders questioned whether teams would want to take on Trumaine Johnson's franchise-tag deal with the Rams, which guarantees him $16.7 million in salary.

    Jarvis Landry, WR, Miami Dolphins
    There were reports in August that the Dolphins were shopping Landry after failing to reach a contract extension with him heading into the final year of the receiver's rookie deal. An exec confirmed that report, saying the Dolphins offered the receiver for a veteran cornerback. This exec thought a second-round pick could be the value -- a price he would not pay. What if the Dolphins sought only a third-rounder?

    "That is interesting," the exec said. "That is a good conversation. I would have it."

    Letting Landry leave as a free agent in March 2018 could return a high compensatory choice to the Dolphins in 2019. Or, the Dolphins could try to get a pick in 2018. Landry was linked to a domestic-violence investigation that could lead to NFL discipline, even though Florida authorities said they will not bring charges.

    "Miami is probably thinking they need Landry to help turn around their season," an insider said.

    Jeremy Hill, RB, Cincinnati Bengals
    The Bengals are known for standing pat historically, but they did trade linebacker Marquis Flowers to the Patriots in August. The deal was for only a seventh-round choice. Insiders thought the Bengals could get a fifth-round pick for Hill, give or take a round.

    "If the Giants are in desperation [mode], they could do anything and he could be a good addition," one of the insiders said.

    Hill is 24 years old and has started all four games this season, but rookie second-round choice Joe Mixon has a 35-13 edge in carries over the past two games. Hill's production has flagged since his 1,124-yard rookie season, but he's still young and could still project as a lead back for a team like the Giants, Vikings or Lions that could potentially use a 6-foot-1, 230-pound presence in the backfield.

    "He is a legit player not getting a lot of snaps," one evaluator said. "Cincy should take at least a fifth and maybe even higher. [Gio] Bernard came off an ACL last year, they started him off slow and now he is their third-down back, and they are weeding out Hill naturally."

    T.J. Yeldon, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars
    The Jaguars drafted Leonard Fournette fourth overall and have been giving reps to Chris Ivory while Yeldon has been inactive. Jacksonville has talked up Yeldon of late, which could be genuine -- or an attempt to pump up trade value.

    The 2015 second-round choice has rushed for 1,205 yards and three touchdowns with a 3.9-yard average in 27 games. An exec thought Yeldon could be worth between a fourth- and sixth-round pick.

    Nate Orchard, DE, Cleveland Browns
    A 2015 second-round pick, Orchard predates the Browns' current leadership, which has used high picks for defensive ends Myles Garrett, Emmanuel Ogbah and Carl Nassib in the past two drafts. An exec thought the Browns might take a fifth-round choice for Orchard, but with Garrett banged up, Orchard might be less expendable.

    Adolphus Washington, DT, Buffalo Bills
    An exec said Washington was available during camp for a fifth-round choice, as the Bills plotted their future under new coaching and personnel staffs. A 2016 third-round choice, Washington was suspended for his final college game at Ohio State and then was acquitted of a weapons charge while with the Bills this past summer.

    "I just think with [Bills defensive tackle] Kyle Williams being so old, it could be hard to trade him," an insider said. "Plus, they have a good thing going right now."

    On the other hand, the Bills have not been shy about using trades to reshape their roster, having sent Sammy Watkins to the Rams and Ronald Darby to the Eagles before the season.

    Kenny Vaccaro, S, New Orleans Saints
    An exec said the Saints have asked for a seventh that converts to a sixth in shopping Vaccaro. New Orleans would have to eat some of what remains on a contract featuring a $5.7 million salary for 2017, another exec said.

    "This would be maybe a fourth-rounder if he were not on the final year of his deal, and a sixth-rounder because he is in the final year," another insider said. "Vaccaro is making too much money with too little production to get traded now. The Saints would have to eat salary."

    Brandon Marshall, WR, New York Giants
    Less than two months after signing Marshall, the Giants used their first-round pick for receiving tight end Evan Engram, who runs routes that might typically go to Marshall. If Marshall were available, the price would probably be as low as a seventh-rounder, according to multiple execs who didn't seem excited by the prospect.

    Aaron Lynch, DE, San Francisco 49ers
    Lynch has played under four head coaches in four NFL seasons since the 49ers made him a fifth-round selection in 2014. He had 12.5 sacks in his first two seasons, and has 2.5 in 10 games since then. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and could help a team that feels it might need to bolster its pass-rush to contend. New England?

    "The Patriots need to just get their players to play better," said an exec who cautioned that September had become the new preseason in an age of limited summer practices. "They are not bad up front. They just don't have an elite, dominant rusher. That is what is hurting them."

    Lynch hasn't fully shaken concerns over his effort and dedication that followed him from college into the NFL. One insider said he could be worth a sixth-rounder.

    "I just can't see [New England] going after an Aaron Lynch on character," another insider said. "Maybe Orchard or an Eli Harold [of the 49ers]. They could also try to sign someone like Lamarr Houston or Dwight Freeney."

    Doug Martin, RB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Consensus holds that the Bucs need Martin more than they need to unload him following a three-game suspension to start the season.

    "Tampa should be looking to pay-cut Martin moreso than trade him," an exec said. "He is not a bad kid. I just don't think they could find someone to take the contract."

    Dwayne Allen, TE, New England Patriots
    The Patriots picked up Allen from the Colts this offseason and haven't gotten anything from him, but their needs could change depending on Rob Gronkowski's health.

    "The Texans have injuries at tight end," an evaluator said, "but Allen would just be [worth] a seventh-rounder."
     
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    Duane brown lol if not just a lower round pick
     
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    Butler, Vaccaro, Landry, Marshall... I would go for any of those. Marshall for a 7th?! Vaccaro... eh, we have a need but not sure if its that big. I like Griffin and Anderson, the Pats would somehow fleece us in a trade for Allen.
     

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