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[Official] Texans Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

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    LOL......but Decoud ran 4.53 in another 40. Sometimes....it just one test......that's why evaluators look at the entire portfolio and do multiple evaluations.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    The number I quoted was his average 40 time, you know, the number they go on. Anyway, I kind of knew you'd be back at it attacking the metric or test when someone does poorly....

    At least you didn't call the 40 yard dash bigoted, so maybe there's hope for you after all.
     
  3. donkeypunch

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    This is probably why we havent cut him and maybe the fact that you can not cut an injured player.
     
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    Vid in the article has McGinest talking up Vrabel, I like what I hear. Not too in depth, but you can tell the guy thinks very of highly of Vrabel's intelligence after having been his teammate for years.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    I think this is something that those who are sleeping on the Texans or trying to prop up the rest of the AFC South are missing. The Texans D line is going to be brutally amazing if they are healthy.
     
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    3 years ago.
     
  7. houstonstime

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    Hahaha possibly the nation's debt. I love it. Also, his only comment on what we lack, a coverage LB, may have just been answered in the draft. Not for sure of course, but it's a possiblity.
     
  8. Fantasma Negro

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    Worth a look?
     
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  9. Fullcourt

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  10. donkeypunch

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    Everybody is at this point.
     
  11. ipaman

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    When a team releases a 2nd round pick from a few years ago they know something no one else does. Here's a few clues perhaps.

    "Kouandjio had been sidelined during organized team activities this month because of January hip surgery resulting from a fall at home. Kouandjio was also hospitalized in April after police found him not wearing pants in a field near a Buffalo-area highway."
     
  12. Fantasma Negro

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    Ain't nothing wrong with a little recreation in the offseason, he was not arrested so I give him the benefit of the doubt
     
  13. J.R.

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    Who lost the offseason? From Kaepernick to the Texans, here are 10 candidates

    You can't win a Super Bowl in the offseason, but you can lose one. Unless you're the Atlanta Falcons, that is. How else do you explain losing the Super Bowl when you're holding a 28-3 third-quarter lead against the Patriots?

    Case in point: Last year's Houston Texans, a playoff-caliber team that the made bold move last offseason to hand Brock Osweiler a mega-deal despite never really even meeting with him or seeing him play high-quality football. Osweiler ended up throwing more interceptions than touchdowns, was replaced at times by Tom Savage and failed to turn the Texans into a championship-caliber team. The Texans' reckless bet on Osweiler didn't just doom their season, it also damaged their long-term future -- they were forced to give the Browns a second-round pick when they traded Osweiler's contract to Cleveland.

    Now, it's time to crown our offseason losers, which also doesn't guarantee failure in the upcoming season for these players and teams, but it definitely doesn't make their upcoming task (to win football games) any easier.

    Doing what a team like the Texans did last offseason is the equivalent of launching into space in a faulty spaceship. At that point, only R2-D2 can save you and I hate to break it to you, but that droid is from a long time ago and a galaxy far, far away.

    The Bears, Texans and Chiefs

    All three teams traded multiple draft assets to draft rookie quarterbacks. As history shows, trading up to draft quarterbacks almost always backfires. The only known fact about the draft is that it is a crap shoot. Nobody -- including general managers -- really has a clue if their draft picks will result in NFL-caliber players. That's why it's important to stockpile picks, so you have a better chance of winning the lottery. Going all in on one player, and giving away picks in the process, rarely works.

    I mean, just think about how often highly drafted quarterbacks turn out to be awful. Odds are at least two of the three quarterbacks taken in the first round (Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, DeShaun Watson) will be bad.

    A history of first-round quarterbacks since 2000:

    Chad Pennington (OK)
    Michael Vick (OK)
    David Carr (bad)
    Joey Harrington (bad)
    Patrick Ramsey (bad)
    Carson Palmer (good)
    Byron Leftwich (bad)
    Kyler Boller (bad)
    Rex Grossman (bad)
    Eli Manning (good)
    Philip Rivers (good)
    Ben Roethlisberger (good)
    J.P. Losman (bad)
    Alex Smith (OK)
    Aaron Rodgers (good)
    Jason Campbell (bad)
    Vince Young (bad)
    Matt Leinart (bad)
    Jay Cutler (OK)
    JaMarcus Russell (bad)
    Brady Quinn (bad)
    Matt Ryan (good)
    Joe Flacco (not elite)
    Matthew Stafford (good)
    Mark Sanchez (bad)
    Josh Freeman (bad)
    Sam Bradford (bad)
    Tim Tebow (LOL)
    Cam Newton (good)
    Jake Locker (bad)
    Blaine Gabbert (bad)
    Christian Ponder (bad)
    Andrew Luck (good)
    Robert Griffin III (bad)
    Ryan Tannehill (OK)
    Brandon Weeden (bad)
    EJ Manuel (bad)
    Blake Bortles (bad)
    Johnny Manziel (bad)
    Teddy Bridgewater (injured)
    Jameis Winston (OK)
    Marcus Mariota (good)
    Jared Goff (undecided)
    Carson Wentz (undecided)
    Paxton Lynch (undecided)

    So by my counts that's:
    10 "good" quarterbacks of 45
    23 "bad" quarterbacks of 45
    6 OK quarterbacks
    3 undecideds
    1 LOL (Tim Tebow)
    1 not elite (Joe Flacco)
    1 injured (Teddy Bridgewater), which basically translates to "bad," though it's not his fault

    You can disagree with the labels I gave certain quarterbacks, but it really won't impact the list that much.

    Mike Glennon, Alex Smith, Tom Savage

    ...

    Finally, Tom Savage's chance to be the undisputed starter in Houston ended when the Texans drafted Watson. It'll be shocking if Watson can't beat out Savage in a quarterback competition this summer.

    Tony Romo's suitors

    Maybe it's not the Texans' fault they didn't sign Romo, who chose to work for CBS instead of playing football. But consider this: The Texans went from potentially having Romo quarterback their playoff team to being forced to trade up to draft a rookie who might not be any good. The Texans were this close to being a fringe Super Bowl contender with a top-10 quarterback (when healthy). Now, they're hoping a college quarterback can make the transition. Their traditional 9-7 season followed by an early playoff exit looks more likely.​
     
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  14. Yaosthirdleg

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    Bradford is more OK than Bad.
     
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  15. J.R.

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    "You can disagree with the labels I gave certain quarterbacks, but it really won't impact the list that much."

    ;)
     
  16. Progs

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    What, High School ?
     
  17. rocketpower2

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    Kouandijo is definitely worth a look. Much better than Giacomini when healthy.
     
  18. Rudyc281

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    What about his "incident?
     
  19. donkeypunch

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    Its Buffalo. Theres nothing to do there. So what if he tried some bath salts?
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah but he's unhealthy quite often and it sounds like he might have some off the field problems. Teams don't cut 2nd round picks often unless there is a good reason.
     

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