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[Official] Raiders @ Texans 11/17/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. whag00

    whag00 Contributing Member

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    did he elaborate?
     
  2. oelman44

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    Not sure what it means, but my friends dad (who went to high school with the Texans CFO) talked to the CFO on the way out of the stadium, and the CFO said it would be "An interesting Monday."
     
  3. SWTsig

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    agreed 100%. at this point kubiak staying is creating a toxic situation. imo there's still a decent amount of talent on this squad - watt, aj, foster, hopkins, cush, brown, jackson, smith... most of which you'd like to see back next year.

    i think it's pretty obvious that the players have lost faith in the system and the coaching staff by default. seeing things like trotting schaub back out there was 100% self-serving to kubiak and everyone knew it.

    time to cut bait, hand the keys over to keenum for the rest of the year and see what we have without destroying the locker room beyond repair.
     
  4. TheDr34m

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    This is why Kubes had a mini stroke because his decision making or lackthereof was exposed in that first half against the colts. I bet Kubiak wanted Case to spike the ball and Case said screw you touchdown Andre Johnson lead 21-3. Commence Kubiak stroke.

    Kubiak likes control over his offense and Keenum is a gunslinger and probably made his heart jump out of chest on his decision to not listen to Kubiak
     
  5. mtbrays

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    Dude is playing for a contract. It was a foregone conclusion that Tate was going to leave Houston after this season as he was tired of being Foster's backup.
     
  6. tallanvor

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    damn that hurts
     
  7. pacman0590

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    THIS x1000000

    You'd think we've won 6 superbowls.. I'm thankful for Matt Schaub's time here, I think it's time to move on, but everything is on the coaches.. this whole season.. Players are not to blame.
     
  8. josephnicks

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    players just need to shut the **** up. they love being on that pedestal when things are going smooth. tate can run liek a bull on long downs but cant pick up a foot on 3rd and inches.. hes playing with broken ribs for his new contract no other reason..
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  9. Cannonball

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    A strong pass rush makes the secondary look better and helps create turnovers. Makes average DBs look good and good DBs look great.

    The last 2 years we had 44 sacks. Good for #5 and #6 in the league. This year we're #22. There's really nobody outside of Watt consistently getting pressure on the QB. It's not the only reason our secondary play has dropped off, but it's a big one.

    Oh, and if Clowney were available when we picked, most people would probably consider him the best player available.
     
  10. TheDr34m

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    Wow Sad! I don't blame him.
     
  11. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Poor execution, lack of control and lack of accountability are why we have lost our last 8 games... That's what I mean by losing the same way, it was typical for Schaub to throw it short on a crucial down and it was typical for an offensive lineman to get called for a penalty on a crucial down.
     
  12. tallanvor

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    how do you know? ever met him?
     
  13. pacman0590

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    Tate has ran hard since he's been here, am I wrong?

    So illogical...

    "KEENUMS ONLY PLAYING WELL FOR A CONTRACT" :rolleyes:
     
  14. XIrocket

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    lol at Tate.....fans are wrong for wanting wins...and not watching a ****ty product...

    dude is overrated anyway
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I hope he demands a trade this offseason
     
  16. donatas

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    Im all for it. He deserves a real chance to win.
     
  17. rezdawg

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    That Andre comment hurts, but I can't say I hold it against him. :(
     
  18. Mr. Space City

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    pffft tate gets paid millions.

    texans fans are the ones who pay for tickets, merchandise, overpriced food & drinks, etc. to see a quality product on the field.

    if they want to boo then they deserve the right.
     
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    In this incredibly disappointing season, this is by far the most depressing thing I have seen. Our hero is done with us.
     
  20. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a>' J.J. Watt said he barely noticed Schaub for Keenum; focused on defense. Didn't see Schaub, Johnson. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&amp;src=hash">#NFL</a></p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402202462209064960">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Andre Johnson took the blame for last incompletion. Said he didn't finish his route. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Dale Robertson (@sportywineguy) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportywineguy/statuses/402206425855705089">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>AJ said he and Schaub are OK, blaming heat of the moment for confrontation. Texans</p>&mdash; Dale Robertson (@sportywineguy) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportywineguy/statuses/402206945328635904">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>AJ on this season: &quot;It hasn't been any fun.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Dale Robertson (@sportywineguy) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportywineguy/statuses/402207166855012352">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Andre Johnson said he &quot;just had words&quot; with Matt Schaub.</p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402204139553177600">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Andre Johnson said several times he messed up on final play and takes responsibility. Wouldn't go into detail.</p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402206240186437632">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak said he replaced Keenum with Schaub because of game-plan changes. Andre Johnson said they still ran same plays. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402207105823694848">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Andre Johnson was asked several ways if he wants to remain with <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a>. Stressed he's under contract, hasn't said anything about leaving.</p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402207400498696192">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Andre Johnson didn't bring up leaving team. Media did. He gave straight, simple answers and tried to move on.</p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402207524192911362">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;Whatever is beyond frustration, that's where I'm at,&quot; jj watt <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/402201560760848385">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;Me and Matt are fine,&quot; Andre Johnson <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/402204666030985216">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;I'm under contract,&quot; Andre Johnson says when asked if he's happy playing for the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/402205482057617408">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Johnson was told that players under contract can ask for a trade. He asked us if we'd heard that &amp; said he hasn't asked for a trade. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/402207838010753024">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Johnson said he and Schaub had words about the last play. &quot;Heat of the moment&quot;</p>&mdash; Dave Zangaro (@DZangaro) <a href="https://twitter.com/DZangaro/statuses/402204321988636672">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Johnson says he's not worried about his words with Schaub. Says media is making a bigger deal out if it than it was.</p>&mdash; Dave Zangaro (@DZangaro) <a href="https://twitter.com/DZangaro/statuses/402204741217681409">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Andre Johnson said last <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a> play was on him. He cut his route short and &quot;didn't finish&quot;. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JPalmerCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JPalmerCSN/statuses/402207878515134466">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Andre Johnson said he talked with Schaub in locker room. Everything is cool with them he said. Added again, blame falls on him. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JPalmerCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JPalmerCSN/statuses/402208017606660096">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Wade Smith said he didn't &quot;know anything about&quot; protection issues leading to QB change. &quot;Just felt like the thing to do.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402208380950822912">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak gave two reasons for suddenly inserting Keenum: increasing offensive tempo; changing calls to adapt to protection issues. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402208771801247744">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a>' Kubiak said he &quot;knew&quot; Schaub could handle the task. &quot;I thought it would be very difficult to put Case in that situation.&quot;</p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402209137607442432">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>As a result, Kubiak basically said he doesn't think Keenum's ready to be an <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&amp;src=hash">#NFL</a> QB and only trusted Schaub to change the game.</p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402209341182193666">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Not taking sides b/w Keenum, Schaub. But Kubiak's answer undermines everything he, team said about Keenum since promotion.</p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/402209778505510912">November 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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