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[Official] Astros Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. DaChamp

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    Ahh, I thought it was either criteria. I agree the Astros won't let it vest, whether it's combined criteria or not.
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Proud Mofo
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    While it still won't happen, the 1000 plate appearances is over 2017 + 2018. He would need 601 plate appearances this year and he has never had that many in his career.
     
  3. texans1095

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    A lot of money for Chatwood. If it was for less, I would've like to see us sign him. Think he'll have a really good year for the Cubs.

     
  4. xcrunner51

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    He needs to send a thank you to Charlie Morton for getting people recognize the value of positive-metrics, bad stats guys. Dude got paid for mediocre performance.
     
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    Dang, that’s steep. 27 year old BoR SP gets guaranteed 40 milly, what a country.
     
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  6. texans1095

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    Have a feeling they probably expect Chatwood to be a Charlie Morton-esque type of signing. If he is, then it's a solid deal. If not then he is going to be vastly overpaid.
     
  7. juicystream

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    Not many players hit FA at 27. They must think they can get more out of him.
     
  8. Mr.Pringles

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    That’s a ton of money for a pitcher with mediocre career numbers and two tommy johns surgeries. Whether his secondary metrics are impressive or not (ground ball rate, spin rate, etc.) it hasn’t translated to being succesful
     
  9. texans1095

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    Not saying that he will definitely be the Charlie Morton of this free agent class, but that sounds pretty familiar to the argument against Charlie Morton last offseason.
     
  10. Mr.Pringles

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    Except Morton’s secondary numbers are far superior (ranks second in MLB in ground ball rate). And Chatwood’s contract is for 2x the money Morton recieved
     
  11. texans1095

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    Not sure what stats you’re looking at. Chatwood had a higher ground ball rate in 2017 (58.1% to 51.8%). I’m not trying to take away from Morton, but Chatwood’s secondary numbers are in no way inferior. There’s a very good chance he puts up a year similar to Morton’s 2017 season.
     
  12. xcrunner51

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    A guy with McHugh’s curveball, McCullers fastball and already decent groundball tendencies is a lot of raw material to work with.

    At $8m per WAR, getting 4.5 WAR over the life of a 3 year deal shouldn’t be difficult when the guy is literally at his physical peak years.
     
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    Well having to pitch ay Coors certainly doesn't help his career numbers (3.31 ERA away vs 5.25 at home)
     
  14. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run
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    I'm a fan of Chatwood. Has showed a lot the last 2 years from what I remember--not looking at the stats at the moment.
     
  15. juicystream

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    Doesn't have the k-rate, but has the stuff.
     
  16. Buck Turgidson

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    He's definitely clutch...just run the picket fence at 'em.
     
  17. right1

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    He needs to get his BB/9 down from 4.7 closer to Morton's 3.1 if he wants to have the kind of season Charlie had. Moving that 7.3 K/9 closer to Morton's 10.0 would help too. What a great season CM had. Hopefully he can stay injury free in '18.
     
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    Dee Gordon is a nice pickup for SEA...but what’s the plan? They have Cano, Segura, Seager...
     
  19. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Still Believes in Jonathan Villar
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    Well then.

     
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  20. Buck Turgidson

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    They have some good young players, some holes to fill, and some money to spend.
     
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