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Obama exposed for his obvious hypocrisy over super PACs and their ads

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  1. bigtexxx

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    Romney campaign slams Obama 'hypocrisy' over super PAC ad

    Mitt Romney’s campaign accused President Obama of “hypocrisy” Wednesday night after the president bemoaned the “crazy” behavior of super PACs – despite the mounting furor over a controversial ad put out by the super PAC cheerleading his own re-election effort.

    The president complained about the outside political groups, which often have ties to the presidential campaigns themselves, during a Colorado campaign stop. “You got these guys writing $10 million checks. You got these super PACs that are just … going crazy,” Obama said.

    A stunned Romney campaign swiftly excoriated the president for the comment, considering the pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA is under fire for an ad that ties the death of a steelworker’s wife to Romney. Further, a top Obama campaign aide is now being accused of lying over what she knew about the man at the center of that ad.

    “On the same day President Obama’s own campaign was caught lying about the contents of a discredited Super PAC attack ad, President Obama has the gall to warn voters of Super PACs ‘just going crazy,’” campaign spokesman Ryan Williams said. “It’s just the latest hypocrisy from the Obama campaign that is guilty of repeatedly spreading lies and distortions about Mitt Romney in a desperate attempt to distract voters from the president’s failed record.”

    The Romney campaign ratcheted up its response to the Priorities USA video late Wednesday after Obama aides repeatedly deflected questions about it despite evidence the campaign is quite familiar with the subject.

    Deputy Campaign Manager Stephanie Cutter appeared on CNN Wednesday morning to say, among other things, that "I don't know the facts" about the case of Joe Soptic, the steelworker who appeared in the video. In the ad, Soptic, recounts how his wife died of cancer after he lost his health insurance when his plant was shuttered after a takeover by Bain Capital and other companies working with the private equity firm.

    Cutter said she didn't know when Soptic's wife fell ill, or about his health insurance.

    Yet in May of this year, Cutter herself hosted a conference call in which Soptic detailed his case to reporters. During the call, as he did in the ad, Soptic explained how his wife fell ill after he lost his job, and how he lost his health insurance. The call took place as Soptic began appearing in Obama campaign ads , and was featured in a profile on the Obama campaign website.

    The campaign profile listed Soptic as one of the "faces of Romney economics."

    Cutter wasn't the only Obama campaign official caught up in the controversy.

    "This is an ad by an entity that's not controlled by campaign. I certainly don't know the specifics of this man's case," campaign adviser Robert Gibbs said on MSNBC.

    Then campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters “we don’t have any knowledge of the story of the family.”

    Meanwhile, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney claimed he hadn’t seen the ad, though it had already gotten heavy media coverage by that point. “I don’t speak for a third-party group,” Carney said.

    Super PACs and the presidential campaigns are technically separate organizations, or are supposed to be. Both presidential campaigns have in the past cited that separation whenever challenged on super PAC ads. Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt again stressed Wednesday, in response to the criticism, that "we can't coordinate with super PACs and didn't produce" the ad.

    In an email to FoxNews.com, LaBolt also acknowledged the conference call but suggested that was beside the point. The email did not address the allegation that anybody had lied.

    "Joe Soptic suffered when he lost his job in the aftermath of the GST Steel plant closing, and no one is denying that he discussed that when he appeared in a campaign advertisement and on a conference call. The important point here is that Mitt Romney's campaign is based solely on his experience as a corporate buyout specialist, and while he has been quick to claim he created jobs, he refuses to accept responsibility for the jobs that were lost and workers that were impacted," he said.

    Romney's campaign, after decrying the ad on Tuesday, accused Obama's team Wednesday of flat-out "lying" about their familiarity with the case.

    "President Obama and his campaign are willing to say and do anything to hide the President's disappointing record. But they're not entitled to repeatedly mislead voters," Romney campaign spokesman Williams said in a statement Wednesday afternoon.

    Speaking to Fox News, Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul also called the ad "disgusting" and "despicable." She said the ad "just shows the depth to which the Obama campaign and their allies will go to try to smear Mitt Romney."

    The ad did not reveal key details about the timeline of Soptic's case. First, Soptic's wife initially had her own health insurance after her husband lost his job. Second, Soptic's wife died in 2006, five years after her husband's company, GST, filed for bankruptcy. And long after Romney had left Bain Capital.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/08/tension-mounts-over-latest-obama-campaign-attack-ad/
     
  2. mc mark

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    You really want to go down this road? Rmoney and his PACS have not released one honest ad since the beginning of the campaign. I dare you to find one ad that is not distorting Mr Obama or his record.

    Just one. You can't do it.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Speaking of Andrea Saul; have you been hearing about the ****storm she started with her comments? The right is freaking out because she basically endorsed Romneycare. She just gave the healthcare issue to Obama.

    Rush Limbaugh On Romneycare Defense: A ‘Goldmine’ For Obama

    Add Rush Limbaugh to the growing list of conservatives who are completely shocked by Team Romney’s latest move to defend itself by touting Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts health care law.

    Limbaugh was literally left sputtering as he contemplated the Romney response.

    Limbaugh’s criticism came just hours after political observers of all stripes were stopped dead in their tracks by Team Romney’s defense against a Democratic super PAC ad that all but accuses Romney of facilitating a woman’s death after Bain Capital shut down the steel mill her husband worked at, thereby denying the family of health insurance.

    In two separate appearances on Fox News, Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul dismissed the ad and said that under Romney’s Massachusetts health care law — which Romney has repeatedly promised to strip away from the country as a whole if he’s elected president — the woman would still have insurance.

    Conservatives went nuts, including Limbaugh.

    “Andrea Saul’s appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters,” he said. “They can say, ‘Romneycare was the basis for our health care.’”

    I don’t know the people at the Romney campaign but I’m gonna tell you…your candidate is accused of killing a woman because … this isn’t about health insurance! They’re out there saying that your guy killed this woman! and your answer is well she’d of had health insurance if she lived in Massachusetts.
     
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  5. El_Conquistador

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    Obama (well, really Axelrod and Plouffe) is running a 2004 strategy -- emulating the very work of Karl Rove. Obama has historically won all of his elections not by talking about his own credentials (of which none are impressive) or track record, but rather focusing on attacking the opponent, often with unscrupulous tactics (unsealing divorce records, disqualifying an opponent from the ballot, falsely linking a candidate to an unpopular other candidate). This is classic Rove. As we all know, Obama set a record for negative ad spending in 2007-2008 and is on pace to exceed those levels this year. It really tells you something about his track record, doesn't it? The fact that he doesn't want to say a word about his past (sleazy), his resume (empty), or his accomplishments in office (devastatingly bad and divisive).

    Chicago politics is on display right here -- lies, distortions, threats, pay-for-play, intimidation, suppression. The public has been fooled once. Will they be fooled twice?

    This election is about a man who is a great leader and gets things done -- Mitt Romney; and a man who is a slick talker and con artist who has been lifted to office by an agenda-pushing media and unscrupulous tactics. Mitt Romney was building businesses, creating jobs, sacrificing for his country, while "Obama" was smoking dope and crack and peddling influence with sleazy characters in Chicago. It's an incredible indictment on the intelligence of the American voting public that this race is even competitive.
     
  6. mc mark

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    Damn Jorge!

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  7. A_3PO

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    So the Obama campaigm has been acting Republican. That should be something you appreciate. Imitation is a form of flattery.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    The only difference is that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth used substantially more facts and honest opinions from Veterans who served alongside John Forbes Kerry than what Obama is using in these deliberately misleading attack ads.

    Mitt Romney has a legendary track record in business. He has created thousands upon thousands of jobs, delivered results for investors, and built incredible business (like Staples). Bill Clinton even called it 'sterling'. For Obama to try to deceive voters about Romney's business record by cherry picking bad investments and distorting those investments is just dishonest. I think the RNC Convention will spend a lot of time telling Mitt Romney's real story -- a story of success, getting results, and executive leadership. As Obama's attack ads get even filthier, the American public will be provided with a clear contrast. A successful businessman and leader in Mitt Romney, versus an unsuccessful, and now desperate politician in "Obama".
     
  9. mc mark

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    "Swiftboat"

    The word swiftboating is an American neologism used pejoratively to describe an unfair or untrue political attack. The term is derived from the Swift Vets and POWs for Truth (formerly "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth," or SBVT) widely publicized,[1] then discredited, campaign against 2004 US Presidential candidate John Kerry.[2][3]

    Since the political smear campaign[2][4][5][6][7][8] conducted by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth against John Kerry, the term "swiftboating" (or "Swift-boating", or "Swift Boating") commonly refers to a harsh attack by a political opponent that is dishonest, personal and unfair.[9][10]
     
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  11. A_3PO

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    So you honestly believe Romney is a great candidate and would make a great president? Seriously? I can't find one person I know in real life that is enthusiastic about the guy. IMO, he's a shapshifting chameleon with no principles or scruples. I can't even consider voting for a guy like that.
     
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    Conservative CNN contributor Erick Erickson tweeted, "OMG. This might just be the moment Mitt Romney lost the election."


    Marsha Blackburn, GOP Congresswoman, Refuses To Acknowledge Romneycare

    The morning after Mitt Romney campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul drew heavy criticism from conservatives for invoking Romneycare as a defense against an attack ad, Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), a co-chair of the Women for Mitt coalition, refused to acknowledge the former governor's health care plan in an interview.

    CNN host Brooke Baldwin played Blackburn a clip of Saul's gaffe on Thursday morning, in which the spokeswoman responded to a super PAC attack ad on Romney by pointing out that the steelworker in the ad, who lost his wife to cancer, would have had health insurance if he lived in Massachusetts under Romney's universal health care plan. Conservatives have since lambasted Saul for going off message in bringing up Romneycare, which Democrats often point out is remarkably similar to Obamacare. Conservative CNN contributor Erick Erickson tweeted, "OMG. This might just be the moment Mitt Romney lost the election."
     
  13. El_Conquistador

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    Legendary businessman with an incredibly good track record of building businesses, turning around businesses and creating jobs.

    Successful governor of the deeply blue state of Massachusetts proves his ability to lead in a bi-partisan fashion.

    Saved the Salt Lake City Olympics with great leadership.


    What has Obama ever done that compares to a single one of those accomplishments? In this economy, we need a leader with a proven track record of success. Not a talker with a proven track record of failed policies and division.
     
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    Enthusiastic? No, I'm not enthusiastic about Mitt Romney in a "Rah, rah" sense. But we have far too much spontaneity and populism and that sort of stuff in government anyways. Mitt Romney's job isn't to make me feel enthusiastic or excited. It's to run the stinking country, and he can do that.
     
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    Bravo. That's exactly right, and Romney can just flat out get things done. He has a lifetime of impressive accomplishments that back it up.
     
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    even CNN doesn't buy this crap:

    <iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vcOJkzUrnx0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    It is about ****ing time the Democrats started playing dirty. Keep on keepin' on.
     
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    hmm, this looks similar. the top is an Obama campaign ad, the bottom the libelous superpac ad.

    Obama says he knows nothing about the latter.

    but, same guy, same shirt, same setting...

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  19. MrRoboto

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    You know you have run out of issues when the only attack you can muster is one that is common to both candidates.

    This is going to be a strained election season for the right wing circus if this is all they can muster for the Fox News front page.

    No wonder there is so much panic and infighting among the TJ, tx and assos.
     
  20. vlaurelio

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    does Obama do the casting of actor's himself? or is he aware of the actors cast in his campaign ad?
     

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