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Nick Wright: It Will Take James Harden A Historic Season to Beat Giannis for MVP

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shaq2Yao, Apr 9, 2019.

  1. Shaq2Yao

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    Comments in this thread will be a good litmus test for who did and didn't watch the video
     
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    I didn’t watch that video.

    I will point out that it will take a great surgeon to fix that nose.
     
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    Summary: CC and Walker say Giannis plays defense and is more efficient, had just as much pressure on him to win as Harden, and his season is just as historic as Harden's, who's merely scoring a lot. Walker says players are dumb and don't count defense, which is why they picked Harden.
     
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    Cris Carter did his best to cut off Nick from any points he was trying to make for Harden.
     
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    Nick Wright defending Harden while the rest choking on Giannis’ d***.
     
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    So 12 rebounds is a tough thing for a big man to do?
    They keep saying Giannis stat line is impressive, Anthony Davis has put up similar, in fact a ton of high quality big men have put up similar stat lines to Giannis.

    There’s 3 people that have put up what Harden has done this season, and about to be the only one when you factor in facilitating and rebounding.
     
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    should of sent @Reeko or @Deuce they would have destroyed anyone on ESPN
     
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    It's crazy how the, "well Giannis is doing it with less shots and more help around him" argument is still circulating but when you bring that up as a negative for his MVP case people turncoat and say he DOESN'T have help even though Middleton was an All-Star this season...

    Harden is the only All-Star on this team. If Harden didn't but up these numbers, we could easily be hoping the ping pong balls fall our way for Zion.

    His nucleus is based around a great player on the decline and a bunch of other, 3 and D guys or putback bigs, as a supporting cast. This guy truly is the MVP for his team... if Giannis had to fully carry the load the way Harden had to for a good 2 months, I don't think he keeps those efficient numbers and the Bucks fall out of 1st place in the weak East.
     
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    He said name a player who is averaging high points and rebounds in a season..... Westbrook had pretty similar rebounds 2 years ago. Westbrook's stats were 31.6 points per game, 10.7 rebounds per game and 10.4 assists per game.

    Yet again, their only case is his defense and team record. Not hard to get a great record when the schedule goes for you in the east. And of course he's going to have good defense, rebounds, blocks and steals..... he's 6ft 11. He's going to guard much weaker and shorter players than himself the majority of the time. Also, his stats are pretty similar to last year.... his rebounds and assists have increased slightly, but I don't think that turns you into a 1st ranking team from a 7th ranking team. Big credit goes to the coach and the team, but mostly to the coach for turning them into actual good team now.

    At the end of the day, Harden is breaking records left, right and center. He's having one of the best seasons of all time.... and he did that without Paul, Capela and Gordon for big chunk of games. Historic season beats a very good season.
     
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    Oh, I know for a fact Giannis would struggle. There's a reason why they were 7th last year, despite Giannis putting up similar stats.
     
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    Giannis is feasting on the LEAST of the EAST.

    Harden is destroying the BEST of the WEST.

    All I got from that video is someone sneezed
     
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    That's what I mean. It isn't hard for a 6ft 11 guy to get a ton of rebounds, blocks and steals. It's hardly that impressive. Heck you can check most of the big men stats and you'll see they have a high FG%, rebounds, blocks and steals.
     
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    What the **** giannis has done....?????????????????

    Am I missing something here..!!!!
    He increased his scoring average by 0.8 and rebound average by 2 from last year..!!!

    Btw cris, Anthony Davis had multiple season with 28 ppg and 11+ rpg

    Another point that's shows Antoine Walker is an idiot, harden guarded the 1-5 positions this year but ofcourse he is probably too busy devouring food in his spare time.
     
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    I don't think they understood the narrative argument that Nick was trying to make by bringing up Lebron and Davis. Either that or they didn't want to go that route. Yes, if they averaged the same numbers as Giannis they'd get it but if you gave them the same narrative and sequences of events as Harden, this wouldn't even be a discussion for the media.

    Also, that defense video of Harden really did ruin his overall legacy. He's one of the best post defenders at the freakin' 2 spot and everyone will always say there are two sides to the ball when talking about him as one of the greats.
     
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    Get a better record in the weaker conference, with a good schedule for the most part.

    The media always finds ways to stop Harden getting MVP. It's a joke at this point. Hopefully we meet the Bucks in the finals and Harden wins finals MVP.
     
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    Antoine is an expert on stupid player decisions.
     
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    What's funny about that argument is Harden DOES actually guard 1-5.
     
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    Lol Antoine Walker. ESPN is truly picking the worst of the worst to be "analysts".
     
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    These guys just kept having excuses not having Harden as the MVP. Now the predominant thing for Giannis is that how he improved the Bucks from last year’s record to this year’s and how he plays on both ends. Well, give him the most improved player then. He is not even the best player on that team in many games. That shows he is still not there yet as the most dominant player. If what they are saying is the standard, shaq should have won more than just one time. They gave it to Nash twice instead. In the end, it’s a popularity contest.
     
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