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New Hampshire Primary

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by baller4life315, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Props to Bernie. That is an impressive organizational effort from his campaign.
     
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    Different numbers and quality of candidates this year than in 2016.
     
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    apparently they managed to annoy approximately 100,000 voters who voted for someone else :eek:
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    She's still my candidate of choice. She's made too many screw-ups to be favored now, but anything can happen. I don't think very many would have predicted Amy's finish for this primary.
     
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    Pete’s net worth is around $250,000, likely less, compared to Bernie’s reportedly being at least $2,000,000. Bernie’s net worth is relatively low for a US senator and I’m certainly not criticizing him for it, with most of his coming from book sales. I was more than a little confused about your “financial portfolio” comment, however. As for “inflated media coverage?” Show me some numbers that show Pete getting anywhere near the coverage Bernie has received. Lack of volunteers? Pete is doing darn well in that department, considering that he’s running his first campaign of any significance.

    A bit of a cheap shot, @DonnyMost, in my opinion. As for the other candidate you mentioned, I don’t know very much about Ms Klobuchar, to be honest, but I’m surprised at how well she’s done, and how poorly Senator Warren is doing. I expected her to do far better.
     
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    Exactly. Essentially 2 candidates in 2016... vs. 8 today.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    Financial portfolio = donors and donor statistics. Thought that was kind of obvious.

    And yes, Amy and Pete received much more media coverage than their poll numbers warranted. Over the spring and summer they were getting mentions in legacy media (cable and print) at a rate that far, far outpaced their support (I. E. A very high ratio of mentions to percentage of voter support).

    And as for organizing and volunteering, nobody gets graded on a curve.
     
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    Biden might not crack double digits。
     
  9. Air Langhi

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    All the polls at the time were saying Hillary was a strong candidate. The polls said she had like an 80% chance of winning. This is some revisionist history. I would say at the time she was a much stronger candidate than any of the guys today.
     
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    Not to mention she won the nomination lol
     
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    Great Night for Bernie, undoubtedly a big win no matter the ridiculous media narratives.

    However, not as big of a margin as I would've liked to see.

    The campaign needs to start improving their messaging and margins with older voters, can't just keep getting hemorrhaged there.
     
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    No, it was hardly obvious. Had you said campaign contributions, individual donors, their numbers and the like, that would be obvious.

    Pete being a 37 year old mayor of a moderately sized city in a moderately sized state, who happens to be both Gay and married to a nice guy, deciding to run for President and not immediately falling off the map is a story. That he was a reserve lieutenant in Navy Intelligence who served in Afghanistan during his first term as mayor was worth some write ups. That he was also a Rhodes Scholar who isn’t shy about saying he’s Christian doesn’t hurt. Add Pete doing well in the countless Democratic debates, heck, that he even managed to qualify for them, and it isn’t a surprise to me that the media has found him to be worth covering. We obviously disagree that he was given “unfair” media coverage, which is your implication. As I said, I know little about Senator Klobuchar. We’ve been contributing to Pete’s campaign for a while, however.
     
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  13. ThatBoyNick

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    Bernie declared winner.
     
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    None of these candidates are at least 25% of what Obama was as a Candidate. Hell, None are 25% of what Bill Clinton was. That's a problem. Basically, running as "we are not Trump". Which is fine.....but I haven't seen anything to get me excited. I HATE Bernie Sanders. I will hold my nose and vote for him...if he is the nominee.

    Bill Clinton was exciting for a 19 year old to watch

    Obama was goose-bump inspiring for 35 year old to follow.

    Sanders, Mayor Pete, is "meh". Warren is interesting. Biden...disappointing.

    Trump is SICKING to watch. He is terrible, yet.......his followers are brain-dead lemmings.
     
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    Great?

    No not really. He did manage to win the primary but not as convincingly as he had to have hoped for. Buttigieg was less than 2% behind him and Klobuchar resurrected her campaign.

    Also if you add up Sanders and Warren’s support, it was less than 36%.

    Sanders will spin it as a victory (as he should politically) but it was really a mixed bag.
     
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    I find it very interesting that Klobuchar was the main beneficiary of Warren's fall, not Bernie. What does that say about Bernie's ability to build upon his base?
     
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    I think it shows the desire for a female president from women voters more than anything, and I can't blame them at all, way past due.
     
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    This is more and more pointing towards a brokered convention and those Super Delegates coming into play.

    A three way race right now with Bernie , Buttigieg and Klobuchar. If no one drops out , I dont see any of the 3 (or 4) reaching 2,376.

    In the first two states Bernie and Buttigieg have been right around 26% each .... with Klobuchar gaining momentum , then you add in Bloomberg on Super Tuesday , polling well in many states - this thing's going to the final bell.
     
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    I think it's more than that - Warren was sort of the choice for people who like the theory of Bernie, but want a more palatable version of him. It's not clear they will pick Bernie even if there wasn't another woman on the ballot - it may go to the "we want someone who can beat Trump" and people's concerns with whether Bernie can win.
     
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    Bernie's always going to hemorrhage older voters - Socialism is a toxic word to us. Nothing he can do accept hope he can get enough college kids who want debt forgiveness to make up the difference.
     

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