Morning Joe: Democratic Primary system rigged against voters

Of course it is, because they don't want to turn over control of the process to the mouth breathers out there who might pick someone who can't win. The process is set up to where almost no matter what happens, the superdelegates pick the nominee and IMO there's nothing wrong with that.

Honestly the Republican party system is flawed in that it gives the people far too much of a say in the process. The unwashed masses shouldn't have that much say over party nominee.

 

Spoken like a true Republican little guy who doesn't realize to the elite he is just another guy in the unwashed masses.

I have always thought that one of the appeals of the older GOP party for some little guys was that it somehow made the feel like they had been accepted to a prestigious country club.

 

What an awful show. You think this dingbat really cares about democracy?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/scarborough-voter-id_us_570418d0e4b0b90ac2706763

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough Wants Disenfranchised Wisconsinites To Stop ‘Whining’

He's just a '94 Republican that still hates the Clintons.

If Bernie ends up with more actual votes than Clinton, he should be the nominee or at least on the ticket. Jeff Weaver has spoken about contesting the convention even if Clinton wins that vote and is ahead in elected delegates.

Enough with the disingenous bull****.

 

You're being disingenuous. Remember these are state conventions/caucuses and Bernie did win (dominating fashion) the vote total in Wyoming but lost the delegate count. How is that disingenuous BS? If Wyoming folks votes don't matter why the state convention charade? You can't argue that's rigged against the good folks of Wyoming.

 

Do you realize no one is talking about super delegates here?

 

That same guy doesn't know the meaning of satire

 

that was a painful watch. The 11-7 includes super delegates who are neither committed to Hillary nor part of the vote.

Deceitful, loud and obnoxious. I thought MSNBC was supposed to be just boring.

 

Didn't this same **** happen in Colorado with Senor Cruz?

 

I'm going to point out that Sanders also has benefited from state convention rules and without those wouldn't have picked up more delegates in Nevada weeks after the caucus.

I'm not a fan of how the parties conduct primaries but these are the rules that the Sanders and his supporters should've been well aware of since the campaign started.

 

The same thing I wrote above applies to the Trump campaign. I'm certainly not a fan of Ted Cruz but he is running a masterful campaign and using the rules and organization to this advantage.

 

I hate this argument because it's still wrong!!! Yes they are the rules but the rules are rigged against the individual voters. Just admit it, why is it so hard for some of ya'll?!?!

Joining a party and get marginalized like that is pathetic.

 

Typical Trump voter. Don't know the rules, but wants to cry about things being unfair like a 5 year old child. Sorry kiddo, you landed on Boardwalk with a hotel on it, pay up. No, the game isn't unfair, you just screwed up.

 

It actually ended 7-7. The other 4 are super delegates which have absolutely nothing to do with democracy or voting.

Had Bernie gotten 57% instead of 56%, it would have been 8-6 for Bernie. Yes that sucks, but that's because the whole system is pretty archaic by design and this is just one more instance of it. Some of these rules can't possibly be classified as educated decisions.

Then again, things like super delegates is what keeps the Bobbythegreat types from going full fascist on your country so there is a silver lining there.

 

So basically now Sanders, (and Trump) supporters are saying we should change the rules in the middle of the campaign because they aren't favoring their campaigns.

 

non-hypocrat and non-repubtard here. i think the their respective parties and rules are ****.

 

It's another case of not being able to read and do math:

If you get between 43.8% - 56.3% of the votes, you get half of the delegates, that's 7 for each. Hilary gets the 4 super-delegates because they choose to voter for her.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/3/1495009/-Wyoming-Delegate-Mathematics-14-Dels

DELEGATE ALLOCATION TRIGGERS
VOTE SHARE% 15 18.8 25 31.3 37.5 43.8 56.3 62.5 68.8 75 81.3 85
DISTRICT (8DEL) 1 2 2 3 3 4 5 5 6 6 7 8
AT-LARGE (4DEL) 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 4
PLEO (2DEL) 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2

 

another case of being waayyyyy behind. we can read, we know the math, we know the rules, we don't like them.

 

Carry on and whine.

 

Carry on with your myopia or apathy. Honestly can't tell which.