During McHale's stint in Minessota, some of the players were shocked how little he knew about how to set up plays. His knowledge was and probably still is rudimentary. As far as the OP's point, I agree that there is definitely a trickle down effect from DM to McFail and company. McFail is just a yes man with little or no coaching skills.
They should have been happy for the Joe smith incident cos look at what he became, the same way we should be happy for the rescinded Pau Gasol trade. He gave KG to the celtics to help the celtics win a championship because he is a celtic true and true. Notice, he didnt package KG to the Lakers
If McHale doesn't know basketball, and he was able to have better records than his predecessors in Minnesota, including a coach that took a team to the conference finals once, does this mean McHale is a savant?
No it means his coaching staff knew what they were doing and McHale would often defer to them as far as the Xs and Os were concerned. This was actually mentioned by some of the players back in the day.
You're right about Joe Smith... So you just pointed out another mistake McHale would have made if Stern didn't catch him... I'm referring to the penalties of lost draft picks and money that was lost from that deal.. And that Gasol trade was a crazy idea as well.. Stern stepped in and stopped Morey from making a huge mistake.
Well..looks like Royce will be re-joining the team in Feb. Wouldn't be surprised tho if he still doesnt see the floor, but we shall see His coaching history was spotty because he forced to step into disastrous situations. First situation, team was a disater in progress. They couldn't win a game with KG, and ailing vets Cassell/Sprewell. So, they fire the coach (Flip Saunders) and have McHale step in as acting coach. Second coaching stint, team was already well in disaster mode with a collection of unproven players that they received in exchange for KG. McHale takes over mid Dec and leads the TWOLVES to the NBA's best in the following month (Jan-09). By the time he took over, the season was already lost so i wouldnt point the blame of them not making the playoffs at him. Disastrous would be a more suitable description of the situations he stepped into.
And Isaiah Thomas failed as a GM and coach. Reminds me of McHale... That's a good comparison you came up with there :grin::grin:
So which players on Minnesota told you that a dude who's been around the game longer then they've been alive "knew very little"??
Great players rarely make great or even good coaches. McHale so far has proven to be mediocre at best
Perhaps you can quote the people who think he was a great GM. Because I think he was a terrible GM, but that there's a huge difference in the qualifications needs to be a good coach and a good GM. Morey would be a terrible coach, and Larry Brown would be a terrible GM, for example. And Morey ran around the Boston Celtics for a few year before he became a GM. The point is that basketball experience really isn't all that important. Presti and Morey have far less basketball experience than Thomas, or Jordan, yet they're much better GMs.
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White was a risk. What happens with risky players is sometimes they don't pan out. I don't really understand, most guys here hate the undersized power forwards Morey takes in drafts but when he takes risky guys and they don't pan out you give him crap as well. Morey believed White had top 5 talent in the draft (I don't agree with that LOL), if DM thought he was that good then at pick 18 it was a good choice. The bolded part of your statement is simply not true, non lottery players rarely make any impact in the NBA, if you get someone who can make the team then that's already a good pick. Rudy Gay is making the max. LOL wtf are you smoking? Morey traded him for Battier who was a really good 3rd option on the Rockets and helped Miami win a ring. What did Rudy Gay do besides make the max and get in trade rumors? As far as all these years go Morey has made a ton of amazing drafts and trades. C-bud, Patterson, Brooks, Landry etc. all these guys were obtained with very low picks and they became solid assets for the team. One of those pgs were used to obtain James Harden. The other wanted a player option. Of course Jlin is worth 24M, that's only 8M a year, a salary that's standard in the NBA. No he won't. Scola would just be a band aid or stop gap for this team, we don't need old guys who'll help us win games, we need young guys who'll help us win games. Luis Scola won't be the difference between winning a ring and lottery, so he has to go. Thanks to him not being on the team we actually have max space to sign someone at the deadline or in FA. Mchale had a decent coaching history in Minny, I have no idea what you're talking about it's not like he went 1-10 in his stint. Harden's responsible for the winning streak however it is Morey who acquired the pieces to trade for him, yet your making your entire post about bashing him. Harden didn't come out of thin air LOL, morey's the one who acquired him,. NBA experience has nothing to do with GM ability. WHo has more NBA experience, MJ/Larry Bird/Mchale/Isiah Thomas or Pritchard/DM/Kupchak/RC Buford? Your recipe for disaster resulted in 0.500 ball in the West while having the youngest team in the league. How the hell is that a disaster, 70% of the teams in the NBA would kill to be in our position right now.
Morey talks about landing superstars but maybe he should at least get a decent coach. Mchale is not a X's and O's guys nor is he a coach that motivates the players and gets the most out of them. I don't see anything he's been good at. And I don't get how ppl here keep defending a guy that's never coached a team to the playoffs. How many years do you give him?