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[Mental Illness] Florida high school suspect Nikolas Cruz claimed to hear voices in his head

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by krnxsnoopy, Feb 15, 2018.

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Can we convict these mass shooters of murder?

  1. Yes, guilty, insanity defense does not apply to mass shootings

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  2. No, not guilty. mental illness is the cause of mass shootings

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  1. krnxsnoopy

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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/1...d-to-hear-voices-in-his-head-report-says.html



    For those who keep saying: mental illness- not guns- are the reason for all the mass shootings.

    This guy just claimed he's hearing voices in his head. Do you guys support him getting away with murder- Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity?

    I'm just trying to understand yall's logic.

    This applies to all mass shootings. Do you guys think the Vegas shooter should have gotten off murder charges had he not killed himself? Per reason of Insanity? Every single mass shooter in the past, and in the future, shouldn't be convicted of murder because of mental illness, correct? Since because of mental illness, they're not capable of making their own decisions.

    The flipside of the coin is that, if they are capable of making their own decisions and should be held accountable for it; we can't really blame mental illness. Or can we?

    I know alot of the same people claiming mental illness, are likely calling for blood for these killers (and rightfully so). Throw the whole book at them for all I care. I just want to understand y'alls logic on how you can have it both ways.



     
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    CometsWin JOSE URQUIDY - oor-KID-ee
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    Maybe the US is the world leader in mental illness or maybe we just have a **** load of guns available for anyone that wants one unlike all first world nations. One or the other. o_O
     
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    This guy wasn't just mentally ill, he was a white supremacist.

    Should mentally ill people be treated differently - absolutely. But they should still be in some kind of mental prison if they commit a crime.
     
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    CometsWin JOSE URQUIDY - oor-KID-ee
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    The prison system is a de facto mental health garbage dump. Our values as a society are incredibly f'ed up. The focus on punishment, revenge, and retribution leaves so many lives wasted in our society that have treatable mental illness.
     
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    any mass murder including some Head of States did hear voices in their heads at one point, or acted on behalf of some superior moral obligation
     
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    Oh look typical race baiter brings race into everything.
     
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    Lol, it is race baiting to call out racists...the irony being that racists are the biggest of race baiters...

    Wait, didn't I ask you a day ago about Mental Illness? What is the GOP going to do about it? What do they propose?
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    It’s a fact. Why does him stating facts bother you?
     
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    Where is the fact?
     
  11. Carl Herrera

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    The voices he hears come from Trump and his ilk.
     
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    Forgive him he heard voices in his head. A straight up clown and what’s really sad are the stooges that support him.
     
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    Has it been confirmed he was a white supremist? I would have guessed antifa originally. I am sure that MAGA hat doesn't prove much especially when coupled with a mask. But I haven't been following this story in depth so I may be wrong...
     
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    And plenty of folks guessed Paddock as antifa and still can't believe he pulled it off solo.

    Regardless, Cruz attended white supremacy meet ups and took target practice killing animals in a MAGA hat.

    BUT HE ALSO SAID ALLAHU AKBAR


    All of the above are true facts
     
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    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...rida-school-shooting-main-20180215-story.html

    And here's an earlier report that connected him with the group:

    School shooter tied to white supremacist group in Florida
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...e-supremacist-group-florida-article-1.3822900

    As with most things, more time and investigation is needed...
     
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    There have been so many mass murders carried out by Antifa, I can see why you'd think this.
     
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    Dude also reported said "allahu akbar", so he is a Muslim extremist as well.

    Dude's last name was Cruz, so it is highly probably that either he was chain migrated or an outright illegal alien.
     
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    Take a man from the keyboard. Call your mother. You are falling apart here. It's concerning
     
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    I am also reading that they have walked it back as well.

    The pictures of the victims doesn't really indicate white supremacy
     
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