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Memphis Shopping Conley and Gasol

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by mikol13, Jan 22, 2019.

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    Yeah I made it out to the Rockets game and got a picture with some of the Red Rowdies. Rocket Girl is the bomb. She’s amazingly attractive and a really great all around person.
     
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    They're cool people and you're a brave man for posting a pic of yourself on this site.

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    Ready to move out Gasol because the "Cabcolo era" is about to begin.......probably.....
     
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    For Gasol- Dallas would make sense.
    For Conley- Detroit would make a ton of sense as Reggie Jackson and Ish Smith just ain't it. San Antonio would make even more sense especially with the picks they have available to send back. Plus, Conley just seems like he'd be a natural fit playing for Pop and in that Spurs system.
     
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    https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/1/28/18200033/grizzlies-marc-gasol-mike-conley-rebuild

    So far, Gasol is generating more chatter on the market than Conley. The Kings and Pistons have expressed interest, according to multiple league sources. The Grizzlies are trying to make a deal including Chandler Parsons, who signed a four-year, $94.4 million contract with Memphis in 2016 and has managed to play only 73 games due to injuries. Gasol has a player option for next season worth $25.6 million, so including Parsons’s albatross contract will be complicated financially.

    The Jazz inquired about Conley, according to The Athletic’s Tony Jones, but there are mostly crickets elsewhere. The majority of teams already have capable lead orchestrators, and the teams that do need a point guard may not want to add a player on the wrong side of 30 who will be worth $34.5 million in two years and is only one year removed from having surgery to repair a bone protrusion in his left heel. It’s unclear whether any teams that could use an upgrade at the position—like the Heat, Pacers, Pelicans, Pistons, Magic, Mavericks, and Timberwolves—will make an acceptable offer.

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    Now, as the Grizzlies seem ready to give up the ghost, no mistake looms larger than Parsons. Despite his close relationship with owner Mark Cuban, the Mavericks refused to make him a max contract offer because of concerns about his health. Parsons had undergone “hybrid” microfracture procedures and surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee in the two years ahead of his free agency, which probably should’ve been a red flag. But the Grizzlies—and the Blazers, for what it’s worth—made a max offer of $94.4 million anyway. By winning the Parsons sweepstakes, Memphis lost its future. Grizzlies general manager Chris Wallace said earlier this month that Parsons was “by far the best option at that time,” but sometimes the best option is to make no move at all, especially for a player with Parsons’s injury history. It’s not like Parsons was a superstar hampered by injury; he was a good player who showed occasional flashes of being something more. The Grizzlies could have resisted splurging for Parsons during the 2016 cap spike and instead remained financially flexible for other opportunities. Parsons’s signing brought undeniable risk, and the Grizzlies are paying for it—not only literally, but in the ways that it has hampered their ability to sustain success.

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    The Grizzlies owe a first-round pick to the Celtics, which they sent in a 2015 trade for Jeff Green. (Gross! Trading a first for Green is what happens when you miss on your draft selections.) Their first-rounder is top-eight protected in 2019, and if the Grizzlies keep it now, the Celtics will receive their first in either 2020, when it’s top-six protected, or in 2021, when it becomes unprotected. Aside from Duke’s Zion Williamson, the 2019 draft is considered by scouts to be one of the weakest of the decade, but it’s likely the Grizzlies will retain their pick unless they start winning games. Nonetheless, the pick is a sunk cost, and Memphis is left with two unideal best-case scenarios:

    -Convey the pick in 2019 or 2020 to Boston so the team regains the rights to its own first-rounder before it becomes unprotected in 2021
    -Bottom out in 2019 and 2020 to retain the picks, and then hope to be competitive enough in the 2020-21 season so that the pick doesn’t have much value

    I would push to trade Gasol so the Grizzlies can get younger, cost-effective assets back for him, hopefully with Parsons attached, and keep Conley, for now, unless there’s a strong enough offer on the table. They could always trade him in the future: Over the next two seasons, more teams in need of Conley could emerge. And if they keep him, his presence could help foster the development of Jackson and any other young players added in 2019 and 2020. By the 2020-21 season, when the pick becomes unprotected and Conley is in the final season of his contract, perhaps the Grizzlies and their maturing core will be ready to make another playoff push.

    The Grizzlies have made a lot of mistakes over the years, and they arguably should have kissed goodbye to Conley and Gasol a whole lot sooner, but not all hope is lost. The hardest part of rebuilding is not knowing whether all the losing, the empty seats, and the frustration will ever lead to winning again. That’s what it took for the Grizzlies to get Conley and Gasol in the first place. The difference now is that Memphis does have a potential star waiting in the wings. Jackson could soon be the new face of the Grizzlies. Now it’s on ownership and the front office to do their jobs and build a new core—one worthy of the love that this bygone Grit and Grind era has received for the past decade.
     
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    ah sh*t...Utah gonna be a problem if they get Conley

    make something happen Morey
     
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    Long road ahead for them to make a deal apparently. Memphis wants "prime" draft considerations.

    But that will suck if Utah makes the move from Ricky "don't tell Jopat they want to trade me" Rubio to Conley.
     
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    This would help the Jazz a lot.

    The Jazz are one of the best coached teams in the NBA and have unusual, but very good players.
     
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    if jazz get conley, the are gonna be instantly title contenders, conley fits their tough minded scheme and man this sucks
     
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    Pacers are in the hunt for Conley too. Hopefully he ends up in the East.
     
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    I like the Pacers as a good landing spot for Conley. That's a great fit...and like you said....keeps him out of Utah!
     
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    Utah is being stupid.

    I would in a heartbeat trade Wicky Wubio and The Exhumed Remains of Dante straight up for Mike Conley. It's dumb sh*t like this that keeps some teams in perpetual mediocrity -- holding on to the "potential" a former lottery pick when the perfect point guard for your system is staring at you right in the face.
     
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    LOL that's hilarious
     
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    Lol, Reggie and 1st, wtf Pistons...Jazz offer is more decent but yeah, hopefully he ends up in Indiana.
     

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