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Melo and Anderson’s contracts

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fattz, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. TEXNIFICENT

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    Wow.

    You must be Family.
     
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  2. theDude

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    That's cute.

    The original theory was that you are getting less than $20m of production from Anderson, which nobody is happy about. But, does it help alleviate some of that disgust assuming that we will get more than $1.5m in production from Melo? To me, it does.

    Aside from on the court production, I think it allows DM to be a little more selective on potential trades for RA and buys him a little time to see if he can get back to his old self.
     
  3. BigDog63

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    It's still $20M that you could be spending on something useful, but aren't.

    It would only really be relevant if there were a cap floor that the Rockets needed to hit anyways. Which...the Rockets are WAY beyond.
     
  4. don grahamleone

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    Nope, I just remember how well he played his first year here and how good he was before the injury.
     
  5. roslolian

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    I can see where you are coming but I don't agree with it because Melo has his own contract and shouldnt get dragged down by Anderson. Like what if Melo gives you only 5M production on his 1.5M salary? Based on your logic we would be unhappy with Melo because he wasn't able to "make up" for Anderson's deal when in reality Melo already more than doubled his production/salary ratio. If you want a more concrete example, PJ Tucker gave the team starter production on backup money but that didn't stop people from wanting Anderson gone. In other words, Anderson still sucks even if PJ Tucker or Melo turn out great.

    As for off court issues Morey's job security is not affected at all by Anderson no one could have predicted Anderson is one of the biggest playoff chokers in history and be a total 0 last year. Morey was still able to build a team with 2 superstars and a hammy away from winning a ring so Tillman has got to be the biggest idiot if he fires Morey. In fact Morey would be immediately hired the second he leaves Houston, Sixers aggressively recruited him and I am sure Cubes would love to hire him as well since they are both stat nerds so getting fired is the least of Morey's worries.
     
  6. roslolian

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    You remember wrong in his first year Anderson scored only 12 pts when hitting open 3 pters is the only thing he has to do, that is mediocre for just a 1 dimensional shooter certainly nowhere near good.

    In the playoffs his 3 pt shooting went from 40% to 28% so even in his first year he already sucked.
     
  7. don grahamleone

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    I think your memory is failing you and Ryno isn't a very good player coming off injuries. That's what happened to him. He missed 6 of the last 10 games in his first season here from a ankle sprain. He had plenty of 20+ point games before that. If he's healthy, he's a great player to have and he spaces the floor probably better than any other player in the league other than maybe Curry.

    Also, where did this 12 come from? It sounds like you're just pulling numbers out of the air.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2626915-ryan-anderson-ruled-out-vs-thunder-with-ankle-injury
     
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  8. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    If you gave Anderson's $20,000,000 salary to the 931 Clutchfans currently online, everyone would get over $21,000. And I would personally be very glad to sit on an NBA bench even for that.
     
  9. BigDog63

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    Well, there is sucked, and SUCCCCCKKKKKEEEEEDDDDD! In his first year, he just sucked.
     
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  10. roslolian

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    Ok I admit I was wrong his 12 ppg is his career not his season average when he got here. BUT his average was only 1 pt higher lol so tbh you are just splitting hairs. Regardless whether it is 12 pts or 13 pts it is still mediocre for 30 mins of PT from a stictly spot up shooter. That's why Morey was trying to trade him during the trade deadline during his first season, his production was a joke. He had 20 pt games, but apparently not enough because like I said heonly had a 13 ppg average. Oh wait my bad it's actually 13.6 right, cuz 0.6 makes so much a difference.

    Calling him the 2nd best spacer in the league is a joke because Anderson has too small a sample size, he took only seven 3 pt attempts during his first season here. That may seem like a lot, but since 3 pters are all he took it's actually pretty small. If we look at Kevin Love for example, during that year he only had 6.5 three pt attempts which is less than Anderson but he also had 8 two pt attempts while Anderson only had 3. So in short Anderson is a low volume shooter thats why you can't say he is a good spacer because he has never had high volume attempts as a Rocket. Shooting 10 times total in 30 mins...that's just not a lot of shots whether thise are 2 pters or 3 pters. Sure Anderson may have had the 20 pt game here or there, but obviously its not enough because his average is only 13 ppg. Nobody will call Ariza a shooter but he scored only 2 pts less than Anderson. Our defensive specialist almost scored as much pts as our 2nd/3rd offensive option wtf.

    Finally, is Anderson always injured during the end of the season? Because if you are gonna say his bad performance is due to an ankle sprain how come his career average is 5.7 ppg? He has been to the playoffs 6 times on 3 different teams now how come his playoff average is so low? Dude has disappointed in the playoffs for every team he played for.
     
  11. don grahamleone

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    That was difficult to read due to writing skill. I'm guessing that's because you 'hate' Ryan Anderson or maybe drunk? That's fine, but answering your points obviously has no real merit with you.

    This response you've written reads like you just openly hate the man. I have no idea why but answering this... it's a lot like trying to answer a prejudice person. You're clearly not willing to talk about what Ryno does well. He does a lot well, but you're not even mentioning those facts. If you hate Ryno because of the way he looks, I think that's small-minded and short sided. He can space a court like nobodies business and his defense had plenty of umph last season after he shed all those pounds.

    If you want to complain about his injuries and his ability to overcome, I'm all ears. But saying he's worthless is bunk. You just hate for some unknown reason for me. You're not being objective. You have a bias.
     
  12. roslolian

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    Projection? You are obviously the one with the bias here not me. You wrote so many things but never really addressed any of the points I raised typical of people who can't really defend their points and result to attacking other people instead.

    The only bias I have is with the Rockets, Anderson is taking up a large part of the cap very few people want him to do well as I do so if I say he sucks, well he really sucks.

    Look, the ultimate judger of talent is Morey and he agrees with me, he has been trying to get rid of Anderson since forever. If he is such a great spacer as you claim why are the Rox trying to get rid of him?

    I dunno what connection you have with Anderson but it is pretty clear to me you have rose tinted glasses on if you keep saying he is the best spacer since Steph Curry wtf!!!!

    Ryan Career Playoff Stats:
    5.7 pts 32.5% 3pt FG 36.3% FG 0.3 OWS -1.5 OBPM

    But hey forget all that, Ryan Anderson is still the best spacer in the league after Curry! You don't want Lebron, KD, Harden, Cp3 or anybody else taking your shots, you just need Ryan Anderson. Why? Because Don Grahamleone says so. Wtf!
     
  13. Swapshop

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    I would much rather have no Anderson and no FREE Melo than the reverse.
     
  14. don grahamleone

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    I'm not going that far. Ryno is wildly inconsistent and I don't like that part of him, but he can help us for sure. It sounds like you think he's the worst player in the league and he's far from that. He's a contributor in the regular season for sure.

    But you're right, we're trying to win a championship and we need someone that will show up in the playoffs. I do feel like he can help us get to the best regular season record again though.
     
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