Maine mayor: 'Somalis should leave culture at door'

IzakDavid13 · Oct 7, 2012

BY CLARKE CANFIELD
Associated Press

LEWISTON, Maine — Ten years after a Lewiston mayor set off a firestorm by saying the city's Somali population was growing too fast, a new mayor's remarks about the immigrant community is sparking another wave of anger and calls for his resignation.

Somali immigrants and their supporters in this former mill city in central Maine say Mayor Robert Macdonald should apologize and step down for what they call repeated anti-immigrant remarks, including telling a British Broadcasting Corp. interviewer that immigrants should "accept our culture and leave your culture at the door."

A group of about 50 protesters rallied outside City Hall on Thursday before delivering 1,400 petitions to Macdonald's office, asking for his resignation.

The mayor's remarks sounded like he was telling immigrants to abandon their religion, their language and their identities, said Nimo Yonis, 26, one of an about 6,000 Somali refugees who live in Lewiston and the neighboring city of Auburn. The mayor's words were painful, hurtful and "represent hate," she said.

"Basically, he's telling us to forget who we were," Yonis said. "Just leaving your culture at the door is leaving what you believe, what you stand for and who you are at the door."

Macdonald has attempted to clarify his comments, saying immigrants should try to assimilate into American culture. He has said his comments were taken out of context, and has claimed he never said anything derogatory about Somalis.

Macdonald was not in his office Thursday and didn't immediately return a phone message left by The Associated Press.

His words have rekindled memories of a decade ago when then-Mayor Larry Raymond wrote a letter in 2002 asking Somali leaders to discourage friends and family from relocating to Lewiston, saying the city's resources were "maxed-out."

The first Somali immigrants arrived in Lewiston in early 2001, moving 40 miles north of Portland because of plentiful, cheap housing. By the time Raymond wrote his letter, nearly 1,000 Somalis had moved to the Lewiston area.

The outrage over his letter attracted international attention and spurred a 4,000-person rally at Bates College, urging Mainers to embrace the influx of immigrants. During the rally, a small number of white supremacists who called for the expulsion of the Somalis gathered elsewhere in the city.

With the current mayor, critics say Macdonald has made repeated inflammatory remarks about the Somali population.

He wrote in a local weekly newspaper that "submissive Somali women turn into obnoxious customers at the grocery store cash register." He also wrote that he was tired of news stories about Somalis being treated poorly; most complaints, he wrote, came from "boo-hoo white do-gooders and their carpetbagger friends."

He later told a reporter that immigrants shouldn't "insert your culture, which obviously isn't working, into ours, which does."

Mark Cayer, president of the Lewiston City Council, read a statement Thursday on behalf of the whole council saying the mayor's comments were his alone and not representative of the council or the city as a whole.

The letter written by Raymond in 2002 and Macdonald's words last month are "two totally different scenarios and two different moments in time," he said.

"But clearly there was division in the community at that time, and there's still evidence of a division now," he said. "But overall I think the community will grow from this."

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Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/1...should-leave.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy
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First Question...
Do you agree with the mayors statement that immigrants should do more to adapt and assimilate into the American culture, (whilst still being able to freely practice their religion) or should the Americans be the ones that need to adapt and change their way of life and culture to accommodate the immigrants way of life?

^ This story just a few weeks / months after it was discovered that Somali Terrorist Group Al-Shabab recruiting and receiving funds from Somali 'refugees' in the USA.

Minnesota trial could reveal how al-Shabab terror group recruits inside the US
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/3...ow-al-shabab-terror-group-recruits-inside-us/

Two Somali women were convicted of conspiracy and other counts and are awaiting sentencing; each could get 30 years in prison.
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_21591522/judges-somali-standing-citation-explained

And a few months after...

Somali Gangs Ran Sex Ring in 3 U.S. States, Authorities Say

MINNEAPOLIS -- Twenty-nine people have been indicted in a sex trafficking ring in which Somali gangs in Minneapolis allegedly forced girls under age 14 into prostitution in Minnesota, Tennessee, Ohio and other unnamed places, according to an indictment unsealed Monday.

The indictment, unsealed in U.S. District Court in the Middle District of Tennessee, said one of the gangs' goals was recruiting females under age 18, including some under age 14, and forcing them into prostitution in exchange for cash, drugs or other items.

Gang members had been conspiring to recruit young girls for the sex ring since January 2000, the indictment said.

The indictment claims three Minneapolis-based gangs were involved -- The Somali Outlaws, the Somali Mafia and the Lady Outlaws -- and that the gangs are connected. It outlines several instances when young girls were told to engage in sex acts for money, mar1juana or liquor.

In one case in 2005, a 13-year-old girl was taken from Minneapolis to Columbus, Ohio, and Nashville for sex.

In another case, a girl was under age 13 when she was first forced to engage in sex acts in November 2006. Over time, she was taken to multiple locations and forced to engage in sex acts with multiple males. The indictment refers to the girl as Jane Doe Two. The Associated Press does not identify victims of sex crimes.

"Jane Doe Two was informed ... that selling Jane Doe Two for sex would be called a 'Mission.' It was a rule that members of the (gangs) would not be charged for sex with Jane Doe Two as they were fellow gang members," the indictment said. But others were charged for engaging in sex acts with the girl.

The girl was also taken to Nashville. On the way there, one of the defendants allegedly made a cell phone video of her engaging in sex acts with someone else in the vehicle. He then sent that video by cell phone to other people.

The indictment lists incidents involving four victims, but it doesn't say how many people in all were sold for sex as part of the conspiracy.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/08/somali-gangs-ran-sex-ring-states-authorities-say/#ixzz28fGL2a2A
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http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/apr/07/alleged-somali-gang-members-facing-trial-in-sex/

NASHVILLE, Tenn. — A federal trial involving more than a dozen defendants accused in a sex trafficking ring run by Somali gangs is being complicated by cultural issues within the Somali refugee communities in Tennessee and Minnesota.

U.S. District Judge William J. Haynes again this week ordered jurors to return on Monday as defense attorneys argued that the defendants, many of whom are refugees from Somalia, were juveniles at the time the alleged crimes occurred.

The indictment said three gangs called the Somali Outlaws, the Somali Mafia and the Lady Outlaws were forcing teenage girls into prostitution and operated in St. Paul, Minn.; Minneapolis; Columbus, Ohio; and Nashville.

After selecting a jury last month, the trial was delayed last week when prosecutors turned over thousands of documents and audio recordings from the investigation to defense attorneys on the eve of trial. Both defense attorneys and federal prosecutors have repeatedly declined to comment about the case.

"It can be frustrating to have delays, but it is understandable because the case is so complex," said Derri Smith, executive director of End Slavery Tennessee, who will be an expert witness in the case. "I have the utmost confidence that the judge and jury will bring justice about in the case, but it's challenging for all of them."

The indictment, which was originally unsealed in 2010 and amended by a superseding indictment in 2011, says the defendants, many of them from the Somali immigrant communities in Minneapolis and Nashville, were members or associates of the three gangs. Four unidentified victims, some of who were under age 14, are listed in the indictment.

The indictment accuses the gangs of finding and recruiting young girls for the purpose of prostitution in exchange for money and drugs between 2000 and 2010.

Out of the 30 individuals listed in the indictment, only 14 are going to trial this month in Nashville on charges of conspiracy to commit sexual trafficking of children by force, fraud or coercion and charges related to the sexual trafficking. Many of the individuals have remained in federal custody since their arrests in 2010.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Van Vincent declined to say why the government dropped some of the counts related to one of the victims shortly before the trial was scheduled to start. However, another victim, who is identified only as Jane Doe (hash) 2, is expected to testify in the trial that is expected to take at least two months.

Smith has been working with Jane Doe (hash) 2 in the case and said testifying against other Somalis will be very difficult for the victim, but she wants to have her voice heard.

"In the case of Jane Doe (hash) 2, she, as a minor, would typically be in a closed court, but she wants to have her story known and she wants to speak in public," Smith said.

Many, but not all the defendants, are described as refugees who came to the United States as young children. Police have relied on immigration paperwork to determine their ages, but defense attorneys have argued in court that information in those documents are routinely incorrect due to cultural and language issues.

One defendant, Abdirahman Abdirazak Hersi, has a date of birth listed in police records as Feb. 20, 1990, but his mother testified in court Wednesday that he had been born in Somalia on Dec. 1, 1991, and that her sister was incorrectly listed as his mother in immigration records.

His attorney has asked the judge to dismiss some of the charges against his client because he would have been a juvenile at the time of the offenses and he never had a juvenile status hearing that would determine whether he would face the charges as an adult.

Two other defendants are making similar arguments.

Courts in Minnesota, the state with the largest Somali population in the U.S., have seen similar issues in cases where defendants or victims are Somali.

There are no birth records in Somalia, and no government to keep such records even if they did exist. Meanwhile, birthdays aren't as significant to the Somali culture as they are to Americans, and aren't routinely celebrated.

Hashi Shafi, a Somali community leader in Minneapolis and head of Somali Action Alliance, said many Somalis know the year in which they were born, but not the month or date. Birth dates were assigned to many when they went to refugee camps and needed an exact date of birth so they could go to another country.

"You could have a whole family of 10, the father, the mom and all of the kids, and all of them born on Jan. 1, because they could not come up with the date exactly when they were born, but they know exactly the year," Shafi said.

Dan Scott, a former federal defender in Minnesota who has handled complex terrorism cases, said witnesses often worry about the ramifications of testifying, especially in immigrant communities that.

"When you are dealing with an insular community, especially whose native language is not English, people are going to worry about the ramifications of testifying in court against community members," Scott said. "The Somali community is a very insular community in Minnesota — everybody knows everybody.

"It shouldn't be any surprise that this is happening in a case like this," Scott said.
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Second question...are the Somali crime gangs becoming as big a problem in the USA, as they are in their other adopted countries?

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CometsWin · Oct 7, 2012

Get. A. Life.

IzakDavid13 · Oct 7, 2012

CometsWin said: ↑

Get. A. Life.
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Everybody welcome CometsWin:

Thank you for your intelligent contribution to this thread CometsWin.

AroundTheWorld · Oct 7, 2012

CometsWin said: ↑

Get. A. Life.
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So it's forbidden to ask these questions? Is it racist to point out facts?

Sadly, I remember from my time in Denmark, that Somalis seemed to be rather overrepresented in the crime statistics. I am not speaking to the core reason behind this, probably many factors (traumatized, grown up in a culture of violence in a lawless society, etc. etc.).

http://translate.google.com/transla...nmark/hveranden-voldtaegtsdoemt-er-udlaending

I can also see where IzakDavid13 might be coming from:

According to police statistics, Sudanese and Somali-born Victorians are about five times more likely to commit crimes than the wider community. The statistics show the rate of offending among the Sudanese community is 7109.1 per 100,000, while for Somali people it is 6141.8 per 100,000. The figure for the wider community is 1301.0 per 100,000.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime

Why the constant need to try and shout down topics without contributing anything to the discussion?

That mayor is going to experience the same "PC mob shouting him down" mentality - but perhaps he is right to some degree, but expressed it clumsily?

He should not have said that they "have to leave their culture at the door" because that seems to be painting with too broad a brush - despite higher crime rates and, e.g., problematic attitudes towards women, there might be some very valuable cultural aspects they bring with them - it would have been sufficient to say that even if they come from a country with different laws and standards of law enforcement, when they immigrate to the USA, they have to respect American laws and American culture.

CometsWin · Oct 7, 2012

Trust me, we all appreciate your intelligent contributions to this board. Thank you for all that you do.

BTW, how many consecutive r****ded ass "Muslums are the evil" type threads do you have to start before you're satisfied with yourself?

CometsWin · Oct 7, 2012

AroundTheWorld said: ↑

So it's forbidden to ask these questions? Is it racist to point out facts?
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It's bigoted to start anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim threads day after day after day and then hide behind some cloak of objectivity. You're both obsessed and paranoid. You both need help.

AroundTheWorld · Oct 7, 2012

CometsWin said: ↑

It's bigoted to start anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim threads day after day after day and then hide behind some cloak of objectivity. You're both obsessed and paranoid. You both need help.
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Are you one of those people who would say that crime statistics should not be tracked and/or published if they were to reveal that certain groups are over-represented?

There is no doubt that actual bigots use crime statistics to bolster their racist and xenophobic claims, and I am against that. But I am a bit torn about this, because just sweeping these facts under the rug and acting like these things aren't happening isn't exactly addressing the issue either.

You might want to look at how things are in some French suburbs. Leftist politicians will solely blame "society" and unemployment, etc. for that. But just to pretend that there isn't another common theme to the problems there, namely the cultural and ideological background of the people who cause the problems, actually plays into the hands of actual racists and bigots.

CometsWin · Oct 7, 2012

Let's demonstrate your lack of paranoia and obsession. Since July 20th you've created 20 threads, 10 of them are about Muslims. That seems normal. All of them were totally non-reactionary, intelligent attemps at discussion and we appreciate your vigilence.

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AroundTheWorld · Oct 7, 2012

I am always amused by this tactic by the leftists and Islamist-leaning guys on this board:

1) If they cannot actually dispute certain facts, they will try to discredit the messenger by calling him racist and bigot - although the poster hasn't actually said anything racist or bigoted
2) To bolster their insults, they point to the number of threads created on the topic - as if that changes anything about whether these threads are right or wrong on the actual issue

So what if certain posters create a lot of threads on certain issues? The only thing that shows is that the poster cares about that issue, perhaps more than others do.

It doesn't say anything about whether each thread has a valid point or not.

CometsWin · Oct 7, 2012

AroundTheWorld said: ↑

Are you one of those people who would say that crime statistics should not be tracked and/or published if they were to reveal that certain groups are over-represented?

There is no doubt that actual bigots use crime statistics to bolster their racist and xenophobic claims, and I am against that. But I am a bit torn about this, because just sweeping these facts under the rug and acting like these things aren't happening isn't exactly addressing the issue either.

You might want to look at how things are in some French suburbs. Leftist politicians will solely blame "society" and unemployment, etc. for that. But just to pretend that there isn't another common theme to the problems there, namely the cultural and ideological background of the people who cause the problems, actually plays into the hands of actual racists and bigots.
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I'm one of those people that believes there are certain types of people (not calling anyone any names because it's wrong to call people things based on what they do and they believe... am i rite!?!?), that want to use socio-economic factors when it suits their agenda and then want to use racial statistics to decry certain cultures and races when it suits that same agenda.

Northside Storm · Oct 7, 2012

You know what's interesting about these pictures---

Vast majority of these criminals are men---typical.

"Men should leave their gender at door".

But where's the massive media campaign on that? If we want to be all about general, focused targets of a demographic group.

hmm.

AroundTheWorld · Oct 7, 2012

CometsWin said: ↑

I'm one of those people that believes there are certain types of people (not calling anyone any names because it's wrong to call people things based on what they do and they believe... am i rite!?!?), that want to use socio-economic factors when it suits their agenda and then want to use racial statistics to decry certain cultures and races when it suits that same agenda.
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I haven't seen anything decrying any race. This thread has been dealing with ideological background and country of origin, not with race.

CometsWin · Oct 7, 2012

AroundTheWorld said: ↑

I am always amused by this tactic by the leftists and Islamist-leaning guys on this board:

1) If they cannot actually dispute certain facts, they will try to discredit the messenger by calling him racist and bigot - although the poster hasn't actually said anything racist or bigoted
2) To bolster their insults, they point to the number of threads created on the topic - as if that changes anything about whether these threads are right or wrong on the actual issue

So what if certain posters create a lot of threads on certain issues? The only thing that shows is that the poster cares about that issue, perhaps more than others do.

It doesn't say anything about whether each thread has a valid point or not.
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We do this because we're unable to demonstrate that your posting history indicates that you're a looney person obsessed with anything Islam so we resort to not taking you seriously. What do you expect from leftists that hate 'murica? We all know the serious problem in America posed by sharia law, the Islamic influence within the Pentagon, the rash of female Muslim bank robbers, all the money we spend rebuilding mosques while Christian churches are being decimated, and how small towns across America are being destroyed by Somali immigrants.

CometsWin · Oct 7, 2012

AroundTheWorld said: ↑

I haven't seen anything decrying any race. This thread has been dealing with ideological background and country of origin, not with race.
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Race, religion, culture, sexuality, pick your term.

IzakDavid13 · Oct 7, 2012

CometsWin said: ↑

Trust me, we all appreciate your intelligent contributions to this board. Thank you for all that you do.

BTW, how many consecutive r****ded ass "Muslums are the evil" type threads do you have to start before you're satisfied with yourself?

It's bigoted to start anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim threads day after day after day and then hide behind some cloak of objectivity. You're both obsessed and paranoid. You both need help.
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This thread is neither Anti-Islamic, Anti-Muslim or Anti-Immigrant, so I don't see what your point is, you are just shouting to be heard...talking aloud but saying nothing.

We in Australia had a similar problem in the 80's when we allowed a massive influx of Veitnamese immigrants into the country, grouped them into the suburb of Cabramatta under our multiculturalism agenda.

The Veitnamese are a hard working people's, sometimes both parents working two or three jobs and living two or three families to a house in the early years.
(We used to think that it was weird, but it helped them to eventually purchase that home, and then use it as equity to purchase more property and or invest in business)

This group of refugees / immigrants ended up under the thumb of some very aggressive and violent Asian gang members, having to pay protection money and having a 'suffer in silence' mentality. Cabramatta became the drug and heroin capital of Australia, with dealers openly dealing heroin in the streets and overdosed junkies laying dead in alleys and on the train station.

In the 90's we had an assimilation project and community awareness program that helped the Veitnamese learn English and how to fit into Aussie culture. We also instituted a targeted Asian Crime wing of the police force to combat the Asian stand over men and drug dealers.

Cabramatta is now a shining pearl in the West. It is an economic success story and it is now safe to walk the streets. Property prices have risen and the restaraunts are some of the best in the world.

You see there is nothing wrong with immigration, but there has to be some limitations on who you let into the country, how you deal with them when they do come into the country, what educational tools you provide them with, career advice, employment opportunities, linguistics training, and there are also some aspects of their culture that MUST be left at the door when entering a new homeland.

This will help them to assimilate and it will be an easier transition into new surroundings for the refugees / immigrants. It will also help them to be a productive member of their new community.

Just letting a few thousand refugees / immigrants into the country to congregate ghetto style in a community and then throw welfare cheques and food stamps at them is not the answer.

AroundTheWorld · Oct 7, 2012

IzakDavid13 said: ↑

You see there is nothing wrong with immigration, but there has to be some limitations on who you let into the country, how you deal with them when they do come into the country, what educational tools you provide them with, career advice, employment opportunities, linguistics training, and there are also some aspects of their culture that MUST be left at the door when entering a new homeland.

This will help them to assimilate and it will be an easier transition into new surroundings for the refugees / immigrants. It will also help them to be a productive member of their new community.

Just letting a few thousand refugees / immigrants into the country to congregate ghetto style in a community and then throw welfare cheques and food stamps at them is not the answer.
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Well said. I agree with all of this.

amaru · Oct 7, 2012

fear mongering

IzakDavid13 · Oct 7, 2012

CometsWin said: ↑

Race, religion, culture, sexuality, pick your term.
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I have a radical idea, why don't you give us an idea on how you would handle the immigration situation differently or do you think that it is running smoothly as it is?

Do you think that people coming to a new country, (in many cases to escape war or oppression for better opportunities and a better standard of living), should try to assimilate and fit in to the new community, or do you believe that the onus is on the community, in which the immigrants have chosen to live, to change in order to accommodate the culture and lifestyle of said immigrants and or refugees?

Do you think the current welfare cheque and food stamp policy is a success or a failure?

IzakDavid13 · Oct 7, 2012

amaru said: ↑

fear mongering
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Not at all...read above post.

This is more to do with what can we as a people do to help immigrants and refugees assimilate and fit into their new communities, to become productive members of that community.

Are there some cultural practices of immigrants or refugees that you think would be detrimental to the populous of that community, and if so, would you allow them to continue to practice that aspect of their culture in total disregard of the sensitivities and effect that it has on the other people in community, in the fear that someone may call you a bigot or a (take your pick)-a-phobe?

The question has to be asked, if you were to let someone into your own home to live amongst you and your family...do you let them set the rules and do what they want? Or do you set down some basic rules and a code of conduct?

Are there some things that you wouldn't allow visitors into your home to do, or would you let them do whatever they wanted, in the fear that you might be labeled a bigot?

IzakDavid13 · Oct 7, 2012

It is getting to the point in this politically correct bizarro world that when a politician asks that immigrants be taught about personal hygiene, using deoderant and not walking to the front of the queues ( pushing in ) which are just our basic cultural norms in regards to hygiene and etiquette...the lefties and Green Party's tree hugging hippies absolutely loose their minds!

Sri Lankan-born refugee advocate Ramesh Fernandez said forcing immigrants to learn about the Australian customs of wearing deodorant and waiting patiently in queues was akin to "treating them like monkeys".
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Really? Treating them like monkeys?

I wonder if I was to stay at Ramesh Fernandez's house for a month, not shower, not use deoderant, stand on his toilet seat to poop and use his fresh towels as my toilet paper, after leaving poop laced water on his floor because it is 'my cultural norm' to wash my butt with water after a number 2...but not my responsibility to clean up my mess after. Would he be so accommodating?

If I or anyone else was to behave like this in your home, would that be acceptable behaviour? Would you say something or just suffer in silence?

But this is common practice in many workplaces in Australia now. Offensive body odour, footprints on toilet seats, poop on toilet seats and disgusting water laced with faeces all over the floor...but heaven forbid that we say anything to upset the perpetrators!!!

No, we must just grin and bear it, otherwise we are labeled an insensitive, racist, xenophobic bigot.

Here is what Coalition MP Teresa Gambaro said to cause such hurt amongst the families of immigrants...

Australian MP calls for migrants to be taught to wear deodorant
An Australian politician has defended controversial calls for new migrants to be taught to wear deodorant, saying her remarks about cultural awareness of hygiene had been blown out of proportion.

Teresa Gambaro, a conservative MP who speaks about citizenship issues for the opposition, sparked a public backlash for suggesting that immigrants coming to Australia on work visas should be taught about social norms.
Wearing deodorant and standing patiently in queues without pushing in were some of the issues she nominated as important.
"Without trying to be offensive we are talking about hygiene and what is an acceptable norm in this country when you are working closely with other co-workers," Ms Gambaro told The Australian newspaper.
"Sometimes these things are not talked about because people find them offensive but if people are having difficulty getting a job, for instance, it may relate to their appearance and these things need to be taken into account."
The remarks were dismissed as "bizarre and silly" by Immigration Minister Chris Bowen who said they "could have been expected in 1952 not in 2012", and Attorney General Nicola Roxon accused Gambaro of being "patronising".

"It's also showing a lack of awareness that this is a two-way street, when you talk about cultural understanding ... launching these sorts of trivial salvos into the community," Roxon said.
But Ms Gambaro said hygiene was "just one small part" of the proposed cultural awareness training she had been referring to, which would also cover issues like tenancy, consumer rights and immunisation.
She later issued a statement saying she regretted "any offence that may have been taken and unreservedly apologise."
"As someone who has come from a migrant family herself, I am proud of the contribution that generations of migrants have made to Australia and I would not want my reported comments, however inaccurate, to leave the impression that this contribution is not recognised," she said.
The government's Australian Multicultural Council said most people arriving on working visas were professionals in skilled occupations and called for some "awareness training" for the nation's politicians.
Pino Migliorino, head of the Federation of Ethnic Communities Councils, said the comments would make Australia "look like a joke" abroad and condemned Ms Gambaro, who is of Italian heritage, for her stance.
"This is no longer the 1960s, temporary migrants are people coming from a university background. To say 'you smell' is ridiculous," he said...
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It is my opinion that some cultural practices have to be left at the door, or only practiced in your own home...this will help the assimilation of refugees and migrants into the fabric of society.

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