Lowry, Ish Smith, Aaron Brooks, Lin, Toney Douglas, Dragic, Canaan: ALL higher PERs than any Rockets

Uptown funk gonna give it to ya

 

This.

This failed experiment to date is mainly on the egotistical "give me the ball and go stand in the corner or else I will keep demanding it while staying rooted to my position" Harden.

This guy has become a me first my stats matter most player.

If I were to put blame for this it would go something like.

1. Harden

Big Gap

2. Coaching staff for not being more pro-active and asking Harden to let Lawson run the team at times while he plays like an actual SG - make cuts, come off screens etc
3. Lawson for just saying F it and playing how he knows how to play best.

I keep saying that this teams ultimate ceiling (championship) is if and inly if Lawson and Harden can play together and off each other and Lawson can play about 30 minutes a game. This is a guy who can get you double digit assists with ease. He will make Dwight's game easier. Just let him run the ****ing team for some minutes even when he shares the court with Harden. He is one of the elite guys in penetrating, drawing defenders towards him and then dishing for the open bucket

And no trading Lawson for Jack or whatever the market is for him doesn't make this team better. His value is at an all time low. SO much so that his best value is to be fully incorporated within the Rockets and play alongside Harden

 

Only Lowry plays defense.

Canaan sucks.

Douglas and Brooks suck.

Lin is mediocre.

Dragic is mediocre and getting paid the max.

Remember when the GARM went crazy over the loss of Canaan?

This forum as GM would easily lead the worst team in the league

 

Why do people keep blaming harden when someone else sucks. It makes no sense at all. Lawson has been given a chance he has sucked. Not harden Lawson. Blame harden for harden not for Lawson. What a ****ty post.

 

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!!

T_Man

 

What Bballh said.

Harden is a lousy PG.

DD

 

This year he is.

Last year he was great.

 

Not really, his turnover to assist ratio is not good.

Look, if harden is going to play Michael Jordan style, then we need a system that allows others to touch the ball so they feel involved, no one wants to watch one guy play all alone and only play defense, it is human nature to want to feel needed on both ends.

That more than anything is what is wrong with the team.

DD

 

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ehhh...Dragic's first full time job next to a star shooting guard and he's putting up 11.6ppg/5.2apg/28% 3pt/45% FG

Lin's first year with the Rox playing off Harden? 13.4ppg/6.1apg/36% 3pt/45% FG

When you factor that Wade is a shell of himself this year versus where Harden was a couple years ago when he first played with Lin. Cmon man, Goran's always been a "volume producer". Saying he's light years ahead of Jeremy is letting your bias cloud your judgment.

 

lol. Last year Harden's assist to turnover ratio was better than what Curry and Lebron are sporting so far this year. So those two must be unfit to be primary playmakers, right?

 

I dunno man, I think anyone who watches our offense operate would say for sure that it's a stagnant iso ball offense. Watching the Warriors move without the ball is a thing of beauty

 

What does that have to do with his assertion that Hardens assist to turnover ratio excludes him from being a good point guard/playmaker?

 

Yes, but both Curry and Lebron move the ball around more often than Harden, they have systems that get others involved.

Harden massaging the ball at the top of the key with a last second pass to a teamate when he can't get his, is NOT the same.

You missed the point - he is NOT a good PG in the current system - if we installed a system that got others involved, and had people moving around more feeling more a part of the flow, he would be fine.

Harden as creator = bad
System as creator = good

DD

 

his overall point is that Harden is not a good point guard. I'm sure there are other nuances that could be discussed, but the fact of the matter is, he's not a good PG

 

The Warriors move the ball around. The cavs do not.

And what do you call what we saw in the first half of the hawks game? Harden being a brilliant primary playmaker and we looked unstoppable. That's supposed to be how we play and it's not ALL on Harden when we decide to not play that way.

 

Ty Lawson and Bev are solid. The numbers are a product of our system

 

13 turnovers...

 

It was 12 and.... http://bkref.com/tiny/9NwIe

Whole mess of Hall of famers, future hall of famers and all time great PGs and playmakers on that list.

 

Get real...

your assessment is so flawed its laughable...

A) The fact that 'discarded' pgs (as well as other positions) are doing well, just shows the man knows talent... If discarded players were out of the league, that would show he was clueless and wasted effort/picks in acquiring them.... (ie Johnny Flynn, Royce White...)
B) yer b****in about giving up a protected 1st FOR a 2nd rd pick and getting Dorsey, N Johnson and Pablo off the books? Kpap was a non issue since he wasn't guaranteed... Not to mention Lawson... averaged 15.2 pts/9.6 assists the previous year AND voided the contract guarantee beyond this year... c'mon, man... if you don't think that was/is a gamble worth taking... you're delussional...
C) you consider 6.5M/yr to be an 'albatross contract"? LMAO! With the salarycap jump - that's chump change! Lol!

If you wanna make an arguement for kickin DM to the curb... THIS ain't it! LOL!