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Knicks fire Fizdale

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by justtxyank, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. roslolian

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    Baby Melo is best as a PF
     
  2. Williamson

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    And one of those guys plays SF while the other one plays PF.
     
  3. roslolian

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    Yeah he plays SF but he is best as a PF and if he goes to the Clippers he'd play a PF too. Knicks have like 4 PFs on the team only time morris is gonna see PT there is as a SF.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    Someone said Becky Hammon is thinking about this job
    I know she wants to be a head coach but . . . don't do it Becky?
    Not the knicks. . . .not if you want to be a winning head coach

    Rocket River
     
  5. Williamson

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    Also the fact that of their 9 last head coaches D'Antoni is the only one who recovered and found another Head Coaching job. That franchise is a coach career killer. Would hate to see that happen to Becky Hammon.
     
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  6. edwardc

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    Don't do it Becky please be patient your time will come POP won't coach forever.
     
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    I'm really not sure what the Knicks thought in this free agency, even if they're certified idiots, i didn't expect them to do such a bad job honestly...would really like to know what lead them to sign so many mediocre and bad for the lockeroom players just to eat into their young players minutes and spots, literally, the only thing they had to do was develop their young players and get some solid veterans to help, and instead they signed hot heads like Morris, Portis just to have them steal minutes to their future...and if that wasn't enough, fired the coach like he's responsable for all that mess, just lol, it sucks for the fans but that organization really deserves to fail.
     
  10. Nook

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    Another LAmona hit job.

    The Knicks are bad and are an easy target. However you can always tell her bias in all of her stories. I am sure Philip Jackson and Anthony Davis appreciate their depiction. Also Woj added the David Griffin information as the two are uncomfortably close for being a reporter and a GM.
     
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    "The New York Knicks fired head coach David Fizdale on Friday after a 21-83 record over the past two seasons, including a 4-18 mark to begin the 2019-20 season. The Knicks have lost nine consecutive games, including the last eight games under Fizdale, to claim the worst record in the NBA."

    Apparently, they took that for data.
     
  13. J.R.

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    The New York Knicks and president of basketball operations Leon Rose will soon embark on the search process for a new head coach and Tom Thibodeau is atop the list of targets, sources told The Athletic. The Knicks are believed to be targeting a decision in the next few weeks, sources said.

    Interim coach Mike Miller has left a strong impression throughout the franchise, including in his time since Rose assumed control of the front office. Miller is expected to receive an interview when the Knicks do start formally talking to prospective head coaches, according to league sources, after stabilizing the team following a 4-18 start that led to David Fizdale’s firing.

    The timetable for the coaching search and an eventual decision could be impacted by the NBA’s decision on which teams return to play and when, possibly pushing the Knicks’ plans back if they are among the teams that still have games remaining. The NBA is in serious talks with Orlando’s Disney World Resort to host the resumed 2019-20 season, as The Athletic reported last week, and the league issued a survey to its 30 general managers over the weekend regarding competition formats to return to play.

    Miller would coach out the remainder of a resumed season, if the Knicks have to return, and would likely be offered an opportunity to return to the franchise in some coaching capacity next season.

    Thibodeau compiled a 352-246 record (58.9 winning percentage) in 7 1/2 seasons coaching Chicago and Minnesota. He led the Bulls to playoff seasons in each of his five seasons as head coach from 2010-15, highlighted by a berth to the Eastern Conference finals in 2011 when the Bulls went 62-20. With the Timberwolves, Thibodeau orchestrated a trade to acquire All-Star Jimmy Butler in the 2017 offseason, propelled Minnesota to the postseason in 2018 and snapped the franchise’s 14-year playoff drought.

    Thibodeau was fired as Timberwolves coach last January and had been reported to be a Knicks candidate since even before there was an opening.

    Former Brooklyn Nets coach Kenny Atkinson likely will also receive an interview, sources said. Atkinson and the Nets parted ways in March with the team at 28-34 and on the way to the postseason during a difficult fourth season at the helm. Atkinson helped turn the franchise around during his tenure, taking it from a 20-win team in 2016-17 to a playoff team last season and one that proved to be an attractive destination for Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving in free agency. He was a Knicks assistant for four seasons under head coach Mike D’Antoni.

    Whoever the Knicks select as their head coach will step into one of the hardest jobs in the league. The next coach would be the franchise’s sixth in the last six years — none have lasted more than two seasons — and the team hasn’t made the playoffs since 2013. The ability to weather instability will have to be a key characteristic.

    The hire will be the most important one yet by Rose, who took over as team president in March. He has already filled out the top levels of his front office, hiring Walt Perrin and Frank Zanin as assistant general managers and keeping Scott Perry as the GM. None will have the pressure or the front-facing responsibilities of the next coach.

    The Knicks have a roster featuring core pieces RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson, a young forward in Kevin Knox and veterans such as Julius Randle, Taj Gibson, Moe Harkless and Bobby Portis. But the roster the next coach inherits could face loads of turnover. As many as eight players can become free agents this summer.

    For Thibodeau, a former Knicks assistant from 1996-2003, the job would be unlike any he’s had during his career as a head coach. He arrived in Chicago to a ready-made playoff team and pushed the Bulls to 62 wins in his first season. He kept them as one of the Eastern Conference’s best teams despite significant injuries to Derrick Rose, an MVP at 22.

    Thibodeau led the Timberwolves to the playoffs in 2017-18 fueled by the trade for Butler. It was a coup for Thibodeau as the team’s coach and its head of basketball operations. But that relationship crumbled quickly the next season. Butler demanded a trade, and Thibodeau was fired a few months later.

    While he inherited a team stocked with a burgeoning All-Star in Minnesota in Karl-Anthony Towns, the Knicks do not have anyone with that pedigree. The team’s next coach will be tasked with bringing together a group of young players still early in their careers. Barrett, 19, was the No. 3 pick in the 2019 draft. Knox and Frank Ntilikina were both lottery picks, but have yet to turn promise into consistent production. Robinson, 22, stands tall as an exciting center and a franchise bulwark.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    I don't think Thibs is a bad choice. I know he gets a lot of flack for being too hard on his players and running them into the ground but in a glamor city like NYC I think you'd rather have a hard ass for a coach then a players coach like MDA.

    You need someone that's going to keep their players focus on Basketball and not everything else that goes on in New York.
     
  15. ElPigto

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    Isn't David Fizdale a hard ass coach? How did that work out?

    How about Tom's time in Minni, that hard ass coach philosophy didn't seem to sit well with his younger players. The only time he made the playoffs was when he had Jimmy.

    The Knicks are fools for always going after the big name. Tom's time has passed in this league and based on his time in Minni it didn't seem like he has adapted well to the new style of NBA. He isn't going to a team full of veterans, so it will be very difficult to be a hard ass on those kids and try to micromanage every aspect of their play on the court. The Knicks really have to think hard about an available candidate out there that will develop their young talent and allow them to play a free flowing style. Crazy enough, Kenny Atkinson would be a great hire there, but I want him reserved for the Rockets.
     
  16. heypartner

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    Fizdale was literally ordered to tank for Zion
     
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    I'm not surprised. Steve mills, Knicks gm, is really bad.

    The Knicks and general manager steve mills made a terrible move when they signed Aaron affalo back in 2015. Don't think Aaron affalo lasted past Christmas back when steve mills said affalo was gonna take Knicks to playoffs.
     
  18. JayGoogle

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    As mentioned, I don't think Fizdale was really given much of a chance. They encouraged him to continue a losing culture, Thibs isn't about that. He's immediately going to empower any vets they have and run them all into the ground until they are the best team they can be defensively. Hell, the last time the Knicks were any kind of relevant was under this kind of coach, JVG, after that they've been here and there.

    Also yeah, he won with an all-star player on his team but it's not like those teams were stacked and its not like coaches have a habit with winning without all-star players.

    Minny's issue is that he had too much power. Usually not a good idea to give coaches GM power. Stan Van Gundy is a really good coach and we saw how that worked out in Detroit.

    I think he'd be fine in New York. Better a hard ass coach for young players because as we know, young millionaires already have a ton of distractions. Give most people million dollar salaries and put them in New York and see what they are up to, especially with many of these guys never having money.

    Knicks need a coach that will not be afraid to knock some heads around and a GM like Morey that just wants to win and build a winning culture. With their market they should not be tanking, they should be building average teams and hoping to attract the Zion's, not drafting them.
     

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