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Keep schools closed until a Vaccine is ready!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Contributing Member
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    Why is this so hard to understand? Many people think a vaccine will be ready late this year or early next year, why not just suspend schools until then.

    Start up in January, and go through the summer playing all sports, and extra curricular activities, and not exposing kids, teachers and society to this pandemic?

    Literally we closed in March with far less cases and NOW when it is exploding it is time to open back up?

    Ridiculous - close until vaccine. Patience is the answer.

    DD
     
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  2. Space Ghost

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    If everybody thinks a vaccine will be ready, will that speed up the chances of getting it before later this year?
     
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    Kids are falling behind. You can six feet and mask in school
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    Nope.
     
  5. jiggyfly

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    Have you never seen a classroom in a public school?
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    With antibodies not lasting more than a few months, it's still highly questionable if an effective vaccine is going to be ready in the next year
     
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    Cannot keep schools and kindergardens closed forever. Studies show that children are neither most at threat nor main transmitters of the virus. Have to open schools and kindergardens in places where the virus is somewhat under control. We opened in Germany a while ago (but only after the "hammer" of the lockdown had already brought transmissions down by a lot) and there hasn't been a wave resulting from that.
     
  8. Sanctity

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    Even the fancy "Mall" public schools here in Northern VA (wealthy) couldn't accommodate 6 feet spacing.
     
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    Adults can't even do that. Good luck doing that with kids.
     
  10. jiggyfly

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    Yeah I had not even thought of that.

    How about hallways when classes are let out.
     
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  11. Sanctity

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    I propose the development of a fool proof (if used properly) hazmat helmet with handwear options. Can be worn during PE as well.
     
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    Would it be cheaper from a total cost to provide cellular data connection and a tablet with camera to every public school student and go virtual for the year?
     
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  13. B-Bob

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    All those little germ-cannons should have been wearing hazmat helmets already. This could be a permanent societal improvement.
     
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    Our President says we will have a vaccine by the first of the year. If that’s the case then why risk the lives of children and teachers for a few months of school?
     
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    No you can't. You have no idea how schools work or what 5 and 6 year old kids do at school.
     
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  16. tinman

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    You're right

    99
     
  17. pgabriel

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    School began opening in Europe in April
     
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    Simply not true. I'm a teacher. You can't have 30 kids 6 feet apart in a classroom. Nor do you have the space or staffing necessary to limit class sizes.

    My district along with most others in the state wanted to do a hybrid model for that very reason. Class sizes at 12 or 13 are manageable with the current CDC guidelines. Anything more simply is not realistic
     
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    And?

    Do you know what they are doing to open schools and how they have decreased the spread?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/world/europe/reopen-schools-germany.html

    In Sydney, Australia, schools are opening in staggered stages, holding classes one day a week for a quarter of the students from each grade. Hong Kong and Japan are trying similar phased reopenings. In Taiwan, classes have been in session since late February, but assemblies have been canceled and students are ordered to wear masks.

    For now, Europe is a patchwork of approaches and timetables — a vast laboratory for how to safely operate an institution that is central to any meaningful resumption of public life.

    In Germany, which last week announced that it would reopen most aspects of its economy and allow all students back in coming weeks, class sizes have been cut in half. Hallways have become one-way systems. Breaks are staggered. Teachers wear masks and students are told to dress warmly because windows and doors are kept open for air circulation.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...t-ways-keep-coronavirus-bay-despite-outbreaks

    younger children rarely spread the virus to one another or bring it home. But opening safely, experts agree, isn’t just about the adjustments a school makes. It’s also about how much virus is circulating in the community, which affects the likelihood that students and staff will bring COVID-19 into their classrooms.

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    Meanwhile Trump has just started wearing a mask and is taking down markers so that you can distance 6 feet.

    I am not for schools to just shut down but just going back to regular school is foolish.
     
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  20. pgabriel

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    With no vaccine at some point they are gonna have to be kept six feet apart
     
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