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Joe Ingles sign with Clippers

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Normalus, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Normalus

    Normalus Member

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    Aaaand our Morey is late again. Yeah, thats the same guy from Australia national team that most of us were talking about. Signed with Clippers for a year 1.2M$
     
  2. shastarocket

    shastarocket Contributing Member

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    Solid value for $1.2mill, I hope he can parlay it into a longer deal (with someone other than the Clippers)
     
  3. Aleron

    Aleron Contributing Member

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    Well he turned one good game against Lithuania into an nba contract, but i'm somewhat surprised he chose to take less money.
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Next thing you'll say is we missed out on Zoran lol.
     
  5. hooroo

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    he's a bench player in europe with a british passport which helps him get paid a little more over there.
     
  6. DrNuegebauer

    DrNuegebauer Member

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    Good signing for the clips.

    They don't have much room to move, Ingles has upside, but some huge question marks. He can shoot, pass, and put it on the floor. Is he a step slow? Too careless with the ball? Risks worth taking for the Clips, who have no SF and very little space under the hard cap.

    Hope he makes it, and the Clips stink!
     
  7. J Sizzle

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    How do the Clippers not have like 27 players? Seems like they sign everybody.
     
  8. CertifiedTroll

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    What if he wasn't late? What if he placed no time to the task?
     
  9. Clips/Roxfan

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    ESPN- Clippers add Joe Ingles; Roster set?

    September, 16, 2014

    By Nick Borges | ESPN Insider


    The Los Angeles Clippers have been looking to improve the small forward position and Monday they agreed to terms with Australian swingman Joe Ingles. Last season he played in Israel for David Baltt’s Maccabi Tel Aviv.

    From ESPN.com’s Marc Stein: "Ingles has agreed to terms on a one-year deal with the Clippers after attracting the interest of several NBA teams with his strong play in Spain (during the FIBA World Cup)."

    With the addition of Ingles, the Clippers now have 15 players under contract and this will likely be the group that opens the 2014-15 regular season. Here is the projected depth chart:

    Point Guard: Chris Paul, Jordan Farmar
    Shooting Guard: J.J. Redick, Jamal Crawford, C.J. Wilcox
    Small Forward: Matt Barnes, Reggie Bullock, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Ingles
    Power Forward: Blake Griffin, Glen Davis, Hedo Turkoglu
    Center: DeAndre Jordan, Spencer Hawes, Ekpe Udoh


    The Clippers are now just under $800,000 under the hard cap and over the luxury tax line by $3.21 million, which translates into a $4.81 million bill.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nba...ippers-add-joe-ingles-roster-set?refresh=true
     
  10. Wapzoe

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    Ingles is a nice pickup..

    For those that don't watch Euroball, he's kinda like Parsons with limited upside.

    Better shot and handles but not athletic and hasn't really improved greatly over the past few seasons.

    Still a solid pickup, i'm not sure if he should be placed 4th on the depth chart like Clips suggests, i can see his reasoning though
     
  11. Scola Scoops

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    that's a solid team right there, but injuries may prove to be their downfall given that their 1, 2 and 3 positions do not seem to have much strength in depth and their most injury prone players reside at the 1 and 2.
     
  12. cheke64

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    I thought they were over the cap and the numbers wouldn't work. Bima lied to me.
     
  13. PhatPharaoh

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    they made a trade (Dudley+pick to MIL for Dudley and Raduljica - both were then waived) to get further below the hard cap at the end of August. This gave them room to sign 2 minimum players, which they used on Ingles and Chris Douglas-Roberts.
     
  14. shastarocket

    shastarocket Contributing Member

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    So why did the Clips waive Raduljica? He would have provided solid C depth behind Jordan and Hawes
     
  15. benchmoochie

    benchmoochie Contributing Member

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    thought they signed cdr and udoh after the trade. the. signed ingles last
     
  16. Clips/Roxfan

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    Rivers finds a loophole and some cap relief

    By Steve Perrin on Aug 30 2014, 9:09a


    But back to loopholes -- the Los Angeles Clippers seem to have found a gaping one in the new NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. The once-and-never Clippers Carlos Delfino and Miroslav Raduljica, acquired earlier this week from Milwaukee for Jared Dudley, have now been waived using the CBA's "stretch" provision.

    The intent of the stretch provision is to allow teams to spread their cap hit on waived players over a longer period of time, giving teams an additional tool for getting some cap relief without taking any money away from guaranteed contracts. The CBA says that the remaining salary can be stretched over the remaining contract years, doubled, plus one year. So one contract year can be paid out over three, two contract years paid over five, three over seven, etc.

    Yet somehow, the Clippers are managing to pay one year of salary over five years.

    As it happens, the wording in the CBA allows them to include unguaranteed seasons in the duration calculation, without including the actual money. So Carlos Delfino is owed $3.25M this year and another $3.25M next year, but that second season is unguaranteed. By waiving him, they are paying out just $3.25M (since the unguaranteed money depended on him not being waived) but the NBA is allowing the Clippers to count it as a two year contract. The same applies for Raduljica, who likewise has a second year of unguaranteed money.

    A loophole's a loophole!

    Here's the bottom line for the Clippers: they have turned Jared Dudley's $4.25M contract obligation for this season AND next season (an obligation that included some bonuses that could have taken him to $4.75M) into $950K over five seasons -- a drop in the bucket. That $950K could conceivably be a tad annoying in 2017 -- but probably not. And the extra three million plus this season and next season is going to come in real handy.

    The team now has 11 players under contract, and by my math they sit about $4.45M below the hard cap imposed on them this season. They have various imperatives and incentives to sign additional players -- they are required to have 13 players under contract during the season, they will probably want to take 14 contracts into training camp because of a technicality with camp roster spots -- but they can only sign minimum deals at this point. The cap hit for any minimum deal, regardless of the actual salary for the player which can vary by years of service, is $915K. So the Clippers have the space under the hard cap and the available roster spots to sign four more players, if they want to.


    http://www.clipsnation.com/2014/8/30/6086355/rivers-find-a-loophole-and-some-cap-relief

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    Clippers sign Joe Ingles

    16 Sep 2014

    by Fred Katz


    The haul from the Jared Dudley trade (read: dump) is now complete.

    Dudley departs and so too does the first-round pick, but in return the Clippers have retrieved their own 2015 second-rounder and brought in a swag of players on minimum deals including Ekpe Udoh, Chris Douglas-Roberts, a re-signed Hedo Turkoglu and now Joe Ingles.

    Ingles’ strengths are not unlike those provided by Turkoglu: he can knock down shots from deep and create for his teammates with his exceptional vision, giving added versatility to the Clippers offense. While Ingles can play a “3-and-D” type roll, he’s best with the ball in his hands trying to create from the top or the wing. He is comfortable bringing the ball up the court but almost invariably goes left. He’s no Manu Ginobli, but he moves somewhat like him with the ball.

    The minutes distribution in the frontcourt remains up in the air. However, the Clippers have strategically filled out their roster with players that can battle it out for playing time and provide different looks on the wings. DeAndre Liggins is obviously the odd man out heading into preseason. Ingles is a quality character guy who will have something to prove heading into training camp.

    Assuming Liggins is out of the job in LA, the Clippers roster stands at 15.

    http://clipperblog.com/2014/09/16/clippers-sign-joe-ingles/
     
  17. lionaire

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    I wish we could just trade our bench mob for theirs...
     
  18. slestack11

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    I think they have decent depth at 2. Hell, J-Crossover was sixth man of the year and averaged about 19 PPG last year. Bullock and Wilcox are decent fill-ins for the armageddon situation where Redick and Crawford are both injured. I do agree that they need another point guard as CP3 and Farmar are both injury prone. Barnes and CDR are going to be a platoon job by mid-season anyway.
     
  19. Scola Scoops

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    Yup they still have J-Smoove but if (when) Reddick goes down they would have 1 good player and 1 decent player manning the swingmen spots in J-Smoove and Barnes, which might be a problem as I see it.
     
  20. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    And he got cut today.

    Overrated
     

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