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Jim Leyland,Best MLB Manager?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by BobFinn*, Oct 7, 2006.

  1. BobFinn*

    BobFinn* Contributing Member

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    Joe Torre is ALL CLASS and has taken his Yankees to the playioffs 12 straight years. However, he also has had the highest payrolled players to work with during this time.

    Jim Leyland had a big payroll team with the Marlins and won the World Series.

    It's a shame he didn't want to manage the Astros when they went after him. Astros History would sure have been different.
     
  2. Nick

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    Leyland is great... although I still think his accomplishments with the early 90's Pittsburgh teams deserve just as much praise as his Marlins WS championship, and his Tigers reclamation project.

    The guy knows how to handle a bullpen... plain and simple. He doesn't go all out like Larussa or Jimy Williams and define distinct roles for each guy (lefty specialist, 6th inning guy, 7th inning guy, 8th inning guy, closer)... i've noticed that he has them all ready to pitch no matter when.

    I also like it that the guy with the "best stuff" isn't his closer... the closer is the one who throws strikes (Jones), whereas Zumaya is there to blow away the best hitters whenever they come up in a 1 run game in the 7th or 8th.
     
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    Sounds like the opposite of Phil Garner.
     
  4. Nick

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    However, Garner's a lot more like Leyland than he is like LaRussa or Jimy Williams.... just look at the way he's managed our "bullpen" games that were "must-win" in 04 and 06.

    Leyland also makes a ton of "gut/instinct" decisions that would have many stats freaks/"manage by the book" gurus riled up.
     
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  5. BobFinn*

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    Nick, for such a young baseball fan, you know your stuff.

    Leyland doesn't set goals for his players, but instead he asks for their best each and every game. And he gets results.
     
  6. Hammer755

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    I've never been a big Leyland fan. He career record is under 0.500, even after Detroit won 95 games this year. Not surprisingly, when he's had good players, he's won and when he hasn't had good players, he hasn't won.

    I admit he's done a great job turning the Tigers around, but he has quit on the last two franchises that he's managed.
     
  7. Nick

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    Show me a manager who has consistently won without good players?!?

    His ability to turn around a Tigers team that has a lot of guys who were around when they were awful should be a testament to how he either gets underacheivers to reach their potential, or average players to overachieve.
     

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