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JD Davis traded to Mets

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. The Hunted

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    Man, Keith Law is kind of a dick.
     
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  2. vince

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    Thanks for the info...
     
  3. vince

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    Wow Keith Law thinks that the Mets got hosed in this trade. From reading, it seems that the Astros have gotten a potential gem in Luis Santana and additional solid depth in the other guys. The catcher coming in appears to have quite the potential too...,

    For one thing, this trade strengthens the Astros Minor league system. It removes a current AAAA player in JD Davis and allows guys to move up the system. It brings in more talent to the Catching position, more talent to the infield in The lower levels.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Adolph has an intriguing combo of speed and power, especially if he can stick in CF. MVP of his NYPL team last year.

    eta: I didn't realize Santana was only 18 and playing his first year of ball in the States. Putting up the numbers he did at that age in that league (avg pitcher was 2 years older than him) while adjusting to life in a new country is impressive. eta2: The only 2 players in the league his age or younger to put up a better OPS were a top 100 prospect and a 2018 1st round draft pick
     
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  5. Joe Joe

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    Fixed.

    Mets don't have much depth, and likely need someone to play 1B for a couple of months until Super Two deadline is likely passed. Astros got the upside in the deal.
     
  6. rockets1995

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    I enjoy these types of trades, Trading a 25 yr old hitter in J.D Davis AAA who doesn't have any speed at 3B and trading for a real 19 yr young prospect. It's better than signing 15 yr olds who might not be good, a 19 year old who has developed and putting up numbers in Luis Santana, nice move.
     
  7. Htown Stros

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    I thought the same thing...no way you trade away a player you think will put up those numbers.
     
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  8. tellitlikeitis

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    MLB Pipeline has Santana as the #22 prospect and Adolph as the #30 prospect in the system.

    After reading more on Adolph and Manea, this looks like a really good return for essentially a backup infielder.

     
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    It really seems like we made out like bandits for a likely 40 man space clearing move.

    All 3 are coming off strong seasons and have things to like. Santana in particular looks like a guy who could really make a jump depending how he fares in full season ball.
     
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  10. Htown Legend

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    Wonder if this ends up being a josh fields for Yordan Alvarez type deal.... jd davis has been over matched at the big league level and he’s obviously blocked at 3b as well. W for Luhnow most likely
     
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    This is a fantastic value play. I love Santana's bat control and think he could be a good MLB player.
     
  12. Stros4me

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    Hopefully we can get similar for Kemp, Reed and Fisher.
     
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    I’m a bit surprised that NYM was the buyer on Davis. I would’ve thought that a rebuilding team, a la BAL, would’ve been J.D. Davis’ next stop. Somewhere where he can get solid and consistant playing time, where he can have breathing room during struggles.

    I could still see J.D. having a good career, but going to NYM is a blessing and a curse. NYM is in a weird place. They should rebuild or retool, but they’re head on competing with a mostly meh team. JD won’t have the safety of 500 abs that he could get on a rebuilding team. If he doesn’t come out strong, he’ll get benched ASAP.
     
  14. Stros4me

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    There’s a lesson to be learned in this—value is often not what we expect.
     
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    There goes another JD Martinez out the door
     
  16. Joe Joe

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    Mets margin for playoffs is small. Adding to depth increases their playoff odds as it keeps injuries from hurting as much. Average teams without depth is who I expect should want guys like Davis.
     
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    Not sure I understand or agree with that logic. The best way for a bubble team to increase their playoff odds is to increase their ceiling, not their floor.
     
  18. Joe Joe

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    Floor and ceiling are interconnected. Replacing negative value players with replacement level players helps raise both the floor and the ceiling of a team. There are probably about 400 ABs Mets have that will go to Davis or to someone that could be significantly worse.

    Sure getting high ceiling MLB players helps more, but Santana, Adolph, and Manea aren't getting that. What they can get is a guy that has potential to be a lot less worse than their bench players.
     
  19. Hey Now!

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    I love that it floods the lower levels with talent & potential, something that will become harder to do the more they win at the major league level.

    I think it's another example of Luhnow smartly balancing the tricky today/tomorrow dynamic. Man, we're really lucky to have him as our general manager...
     
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    He is different in person than he is as a writer.

    He is very polite and friendly in person, even though she suffers from social anxiety.

    I did not especially like him when I had only read his columns. He is aware that his columns and media personality is kind of dickish. He calls it "snarky" but knows it doesn't fit who he is as a person.

    He was very, very close to being an executive with the Houston Astros 6 years ago. He was offered the job, and he would have accepted the offer from Luhnow if not for his family not wanting him to.

    He flew down to Houston at the time, met with the owner, Luhnow and others. He was going to be in charge of the Astros entire scouting operation.

    He is a very nice, generous and brilliant guy.
     
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