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James Harden will soon pass Hakeem Olajuwon for the most 40 point games in franchise history

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Apr 4, 2016.

  1. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Contributing Member

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    Yeah, and Michael Jordan would just be an Eric Gordon in this era too.
     
  2. PersianRocket

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    He's definitely the best scorer in rockets history.
     
  3. PhiSlammaJamma

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    What kind of pass will this be? If it's a bounce pass...
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    Interesting factoid, but it says more about basketball eras than it does ability. Half of Olajuwon's career was in the grind-it-out 90s where pace and scoring were low. Meanwhile, Harden gets to play in the no-hand-check era. Olajuwon would be smothered in triple-teams every time he got the ball without a whistle ever getting blown, while Harden marches to the charity stripe every other possession. And, Harden is chucking in a lot of 3s to run up the score while Olajuwon was plodding along with 2-point shots. There is more volatility in relying on 3s for your offensive game -- sometimes you're cold and shoot a forgettable game, but sometimes you're on fire, hit 8 of 10 from deep and have a 40 point game before you know it.

    So I don't think it means anything. They're both great offensive players. Harden's game is particularly well-suited to today's game. He'd have done well in the 90s, but he's great today.
     
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  5. dmenacela

    dmenacela Contributing Member

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    Number of 40 point games should not be a benchmark on how amazing a player is. Yawn.
     
  6. bmd

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    The funny thing about this thread is that I simply posted a fact in the OP. No bias. Just the facts.

    Then most of the posts in this thread were people trying to explain it away or hype it up.

    Pretty interesting to see the biases at work.
     
  7. cdrive

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    I just wanna say how impressed I am with Harden this year. Yeah he started rocky. Yeah I criticize his TOs a lot. Yes his defense has slid back a little bit this season. But it's incredible what he does for us. Look at his MVP numbers last year and look what he is doing this year. Scoring up, assists up, FG% up, 3s % down a little bit but rebounding up, holding steady on steals and blocks. TO up 1/2 a TO per game but again, assists up and scoring up.

    Dude is still just a beast. His #s are right there with his MVPesque year last year. It's just too bad this terrible season has many overlooking how great he has been this year. The D-Mo thing, the coaching thing. Lawson, Brewer, TJ...just a lot of crap circumstances but Harden has still beasted despite this. Please nobody come back at me on this post. Just let me give some props to Harden. We should appreciate him and build around him for many more years. Because duh.
     
  8. J Sizzle

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    lmao. This. It's amazing.
     
  9. SF3isBack!!

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    Makes for a pretty entertaining thread though, lol. There are people who hate Harden and were completely offended by a fact, lol.
     
  10. heypartner

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    Let's hope he can pass Hakeem on the 40+ points in playoff games. But he has a ways to go. 11 to 2. Hakeem is 6th all-time in the playoffs.

    And note, Kobe and Shaq played over 80 more playoff games than Hakeem. Jabbar played over 100 more playoff games.

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    The folks that hate Harden the most will probably be the same people 10 years from now that will be b****ing about the good ole days when Harden led the Rockets to the playoffs his first 4 years in a row (hopefully if they get in this year) single handily on his back with a crappy supporting cast.

    He's going to be in the history books for a long time with the Rockets up there with likes of Hakeem, Moses, Hayes, Murphy, McGrady, and Drexler for ALOT of different records.... EVEN if he declines, and only plays in Houston throughout this contract.

    If you are going to have a crappy attitude about the Harden years then fine, but you better damn well get used to his name and likeness being a staple in the Houston Rockets hall of greats. He's going to be talked about in Houston Rockets history for years and years regardless of what happens this year and beyond.

    Better get used to him.
     
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    the guy makes 40+ points but how many turn overs does he commit?

    is it worth getting your team mates out of rythym so you can dump 40?

    basketball is a team game not a 1 man show, we need team work more than anything...
     
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    About 4.6, which is right about the norm for a player of his usage.

    Absolutely not! So it's a good thing he doesn't get his teammates out of rhythm. He creates a huge amount of open shots, easy dunks, and great driving lanes.

    Absolutely right.

    Which is why the guys outside of Harden need to start contributing.
     
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    We are 21-4 in the games where Harden scores 40 or more points. .840 win percentage. So it is worth it for him to get 40? Um yes. Are TOs and the fairytale of him getting his teammates out of rhythm both false focuses in those 40+pt games? Absolutely.

    Harden's production during those 25 40+pt games:
    43.8 PTS on 23.8 Attempts, 6.16 TRB, 7.44 AST, 2.6 STL, .48 BLK, 4.48 TOV
     
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    He's better than McGrady.
     
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    defense is as equally important. how many block shots, rebounds, steals, making it difficult for the other team to score points.

    what's the point scoring 40 if you give up 40 yourself.
     
  17. J Sizzle

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    It's amazing how many idiotic Harden narratives are so easily disproved.
     
  18. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    How many players have dropped 40 on Harden?
     
  19. cdrive

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    Harden in a Rockets uniform?

    1 Corey Brewer - 51
    2 Carmelo Anthony - 45
    3 DeMar DeRozan - 42
    4 Kevin Durant - 42
    5 J.J. Redick - 40
    6 Russell Westbrook - 40
    7 O.J. Mayo - 40
     
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    Ignoring the blatantly obvious fact that the game is constant switches, lets assume Harden is responsible for the opposing SGs.

    3 actual shooting guards on that list.

    3 in four years.
     

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