James Harden is gonna get screwed over again in MVP Voting

Espn really trying to rain on harden and the rockets parade.

Harden is the best player on the best team record wise over the last 20 games.

They can eat a big fat you know what!!!!

 

When Curry wins MVP with Thompson and Green's help, nobody cared. When Gorden and other guys helped Harden, it suddenly goes against Harden's case. Media, smh

 

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/...mbers-were-astounding-but-not-why-rockets-won

lol, that's their headline for the raptors game

 

People are starting to use Harden's turnovers as excuse to devalue his contributions to the game. Kevin Pelton did this few days ago, and now this article. Homers gonna homer, but believe me, if Harden averages close to or more than 6 TOs per game, he's not winning MVP.

 

The hate is incredible

 

You would love that wouldn't you? you sad SOB.

 

I warned and people didn't listen. It hurts the narrative whether you like it or not (nevermind our chances of winning)

 

You can want this team and Harden to fail as much as you want, but even if Harden has 6 TOs he would still run away with MVP as long as the Rockets maintain 3rd seed. Do you think the TO narrative is enough to fade out the historical season that Harden is having? Or the fact that Houston and Harden are currently riding on a massive underdog narrative?

I would suggest you use the whole "defense" narrative instead because at least that has more traction, but nobody in their right mind right now would be considering anyone else but Harden as the MVP front runner.

 

Every year in every sport the media will try to create a rivalry between MVP candidates. They are not going to say from day one this guy is it hands down. They want to stir debate regardless of who they feel will really win it. It's good for the game.

What's the difference between the Rockets being in a close game the whole way before winning or the Rockets blowing out the other team by 25 points. Either way it's a win and I feel Harden will win it out at season's end.

 

Yule C. ESPN is starting to push "Harden not as impactful because his turnovers" narrative.

http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...s-harden-more-unstoppable-force-right-now-nba

"The one key factor we haven't yet discussed is turnovers. Both players are on pace to surpass Charles Barkley's NBA record of 4.7 per game according to Basketball-Reference.com. Given everything they do for their teams, those turnover rates are understandable, but that's more true in Westbrook's case. He's committing turnovers on 15.8 percent of the plays he uses (barely more than the average of 15.0 percent for point guards), as compared to 19.5 percent for Harden.

The difference in turnover rates helps mitigate Harden's efficiency advantage. In terms of a simple offensive rating of points scored per play used, Harden still has the edge (98.6 points per 100 plays to Westbrook's 91.4), but it's no longer as impressive as his true shooting advantage."

 

You are using ESPN as your benchmark, who are not by any means an unbiased media. They had Westbrook over Harden and Anthony Davis this season as the 5th best player in the league.

 

Are you saying ESPN doesn't have any sway over how people cast their MVP votes? They are like largest sports media outlet in the country.

 

Westbrick is also averaging a high number of TO's per game and less assists while doing so.

 

Doesn't matter. People already don't like Harden, and just gonna use turnovers as excuse to not vote him in as the MVP. Not saying it's fair, but that's absolutely going to happen. Harden already has "no defense" narrative going against him, he can't afford another negative storyline, and yet his turnover numbers are keep increasing.

 

joomba, man are you ever like positive about anything in life? Try smoking some cannabis, OR a xanax to calm your nerves a bit. The media has never been in Houston's back pocket, never in my 35 years of watching Houston sports. This is nothing new, but at the same time the media isn't out to get us, either. If Westbrook wins the MVP then good for him, his team won't be winning the rocket-ship this year because that will be James Hardens team. The Rockets red glare is real and also a part of our national anthem and all.

The dude loves you but you need to stop this stupid bull **** crusade of yours, it doesn't flow well with the vibe here and people are putting you on ignore lists at record pace.

Dude doesn't have anyone on ignore yet, but you will need to change your ways and become less "ball dominant" as BBholic would suggest and be more open to others opinions and stop knee jerking over stuff. Rockets are 30-9 right now, and this is the best team we've had since the 22 game winning streak. Chill the **** out and get over the Harden MVP race, it's not important. It's really not.

Peace.

 

If it's not important to you, then just ignore my posts. I'm just saying that people are already starting to use turnovers as yet another reason to think Russ > Harden.

 

Yep but they do not have enough scorers, they are the defensive Rockets and probably worse in reality.

 

Making the Finals or at least another WCF appearance would help tremendously.

 

They will use anything, to advance their narrative, to these people, Harden could have more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, and less turnovers, more wins, and they would still find a reason.

Their most recent article used +/-. literally the most useless stat to use at an individual level for a star player in the history of basketball (it can have some use in determining toxic lineups, but star players since they get the most minutes, typically get the most lineup variance).