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James Dolan or Tilman Fertitta?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jacoby, Jan 15, 2020.

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Would you rather have Tilman or Dolan?

  1. Tilman Fertitta

    32 vote(s)
    71.1%
  2. James Dolan

    13 vote(s)
    28.9%
  1. meh

    meh Contributing Member

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    lol oh yeah that's a good joke
     
  2. Vivi

    Vivi Member

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    Lol, Dolan is probably the worst owner ever so, you'd still pick Tilman over him, at least as today, but once he puts his son in Morey's place well, that's where he would come really close.
     
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  3. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

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    Tilman inherited a team with horrible contracts and a crippled team salary. He had to give assets in order to move forward but somehow people can't comprehend this. CF solution to a maxed team salary and full roster space with 0 value is just to spend more.
     
  4. YOLO

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    lmao move forward. he took a 65-17 team and went backwards. pure stupidity as a team owner if you're goal is to win a title.
     
  5. cheke64

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    Moute retired and Ariza is washed and overpayed.
     
  6. YOLO

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    even if you think ariza is washed, he turned out to be the best asset Tilman ever had but since he was too cheap to bring back someone who has yet to be replaced, it never even got to that point.

    moute isn't playing, sooooo you go and get mcw,ennis,melo. cool. LTS over everything even at the expense of a 65 win team

    then the idiot straps the rockets from making any significant moves by dumping additional assets. since day 1 he hasn't done anything to make this team better on the court.
     
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  7. scolandry1

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    Some of the owners that have been listed are aware that they know almost nothing about basketball. Tilman thinks he knows something...or his son w/e. That's the scary part.
     
  8. BigggReddd

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    "Would you rather have the worst owner in league history or the worst owner in the current climate of the NBA?"

    Atleast Tilman (so I think) wouldn't ban you from TC for life because you're unimpressed with him.
     
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  9. tycoonchip

    tycoonchip Member

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    This feels like a Southpark poll. Turd Sandwich vs Douchebag.
     
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  10. pass_to_Hakeem

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    Neither. I’m sorry but I DO NOT!!!!!! like Fertits
     
  11. Reeko

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    Really? Stop the nonsense...

    Dolan is probably the biggest reason no one wants to go play for the Knicks. A team in Manhattan can’t attract any free agents due to his fckery. Players should be flocking there. How many embarrassing situations has he been a part of? Sorry, but I don’t see players refusing to come to Houston because Tilman is the owner. Get real...
     
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    edit: double post
     
  13. ChillyPete32

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    The Ariza reference is ridiculous. Washington made an idiotic trade in part because they had already agreed to trade Oubre in the "which Brooks?" trade and sort of panicked after that fell apart and wasn't particularly discerning because they weren't going to re-sign him. There was no reasonable expectation that the salary you would take back when trading him would be a promising young player. Having to give up an asset to shed his salary would have been more likely than getting something worthwhile back for him.

    Signing Ariza would have cost $30 million in real money for one season and as expected, his production severely fell off. Very few owners would have signed off on that. Dolan actually might have in this instance in part because he's kind of a fool and wouldn't have realized that was a bad investment. But that foolishness over the long term is generally not good and why the Knicks have sucked for so long.

    Criticizing Tilman for shedding assets to go below the tax line due to what might be irrational fear of the repeater tax in the future is fair.

    We know that Dolan equals your franchising being a complete joke. Maybe things will turn out that way with Tilman, but I'll take the mystery box in the meantime. Tilman also did build an empire. Dolan is a legacy kid who sings (not very well) in a blues band. That's gotta count for something too.
     
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  14. ChillyPete32

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    Chris Paul's decline had a lot more to do with the W/L regression than not having the version of Ariza we would have had last year.
     
  15. YOLO

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    not really. when you go from the likes of ariza/moute to guys like chriss, mcw, melo, knight, ennis as your supporting cast its no wonder that the season started 11-14. LTS cost a 65 win team real depth. from legitimate role players to bottom feeding/borderline guys. that's not going to cut it no matter how much cf's wanted to make themselves believe they were good. cringe worthy posts on this board btw. that was the worst offseason by far of this tenure.
     
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    Much too early to tell. Not looking good though.
     
  17. The Hunted

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    James Dolan? Jeez, have some respect for yourselves Clutchfans.
     
  18. napalm06

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    Fertitta for two reasons - he has kept Morey, and his track record isn't as long as Dolan.
     
  19. jacoby

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    He forced Morey into making moves that he otherwise wouldn't do, including trading picks/young talent to dip below the tax line and overruling him on the Westbrook trade. If we have a disappointing post-season (which is not unlikely) and can't rebuild a championship team I fully expect Morey to leave.
     
  20. gmoney411

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    If you aren't paying the tax with what he inherited when is he ever going to pay it? A non tax paying team hasn't won a ring in a long time. I can get behind a lot of the moves but dumping your last big contract in Knight and then not using exceptions or resigning Shump to a filler contract completely crushed flexibility. Knight could have been traded for Iggy.
     
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