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Is Ray Felton the worst PG in the nba?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Little General, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. Little General

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    I know that no one like bleacherreport but I just wanted to share this video with you guys. It cracked me up.

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    And here is the article if you want to know what they said

    Milwaukee Bucks point guard Brandon Knight is a bad player, plying his trade for a bad team. But on Monday night, he had a chance to shoot the Bucks to a rare victory. As he walked the ball up the court with mere seconds left on the clock and the score tied at 98, Knight had only one thought on his mind: I want Raymond Felton.

    Per The Wall Street Journal's Chris Herring:


    There are so many bad defenders on this New York Knicks team, but none inspire quite the giddy sense of anticipation in opposing ball-handlers as does Felton, the portly point guard. Knight did indeed get matched up on Felton, and unsurprisingly, he stuck a three-pointer in Felton's eye—ballgame: Bucks 101, Knicks 98.

    After the game, the website obglobal.net profiled Felton's performance in a disgusted, profanity-laced series of rants. (Warning: NSFW)

    The maker of this video has a point. It is impossible to watch Felton air-ball floaters and layups, all while playing some of the worst defense ever seen by man, and not feel a bit ashamed...for him, for the Knicks, for everyone watching.

    And this was not simply a one-game incident. Whether he is injured, out-of-shape or over-the-hill, Felton has played this season like a shadow of the point guard who helped the Knicks to 54 wins in the 2012-13 season.

    He has become so terrible, on both sides of the ball, that it is now fair to ask if Raymond Felton is the worst point guard in the NBA.


    Felton's Problems: Shooting and Defense

    The Knicks brought back Felton in the summer of 2012—just before they jettisoned the extremely popular Jeremy Lin. The move was considered reasonable at the time, according to Bleacher Report's Jim Cavan:

    Given the team's cash-strapped prospects and fragile makeup, the move made more than a little bit of sense. In Felton, the Knicks were reacquiring a point guard who, for all his faults and drawbacks, could at least be counted upon to effectively manage the offense.

    Felton was by no means a superstar for the Knicks in 2012-13, but he did make a considerable impact on the team's offense. New York averaged 6.6 more points per 100 possessions with Felton on the floor.

    Unfortunately, New York's opponents averaged 4.5 more points per 100 possessions when matched up against Felton. He was giving back nearly everything he added on offense...but not quite. That "not quite" paid huge dividends for the 2012-13 team, as their offensive rating rose from 17th in the NBA during 2011-12 all the way up to third, while their defense fell from fifth to 18th. The Knicks were a worse defensive team but scored efficiently enough to overcome that weakness.

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    Defensively, this season's version of Felton is little different from the 2012-13 version...and that is a bad thing. Even at his best, Felton lacks the lateral quickness to keep up with most guards. And Felton hasn't been anywhere near his best this season in terms of health and conditioning.

    He cannot contain guards off the dribble, and he has a nasty habit of nestling himself into screeners, resting comfortably against a big man while the player he's supposed to be guarding stands at the three-point line with the ball. When guarded by Felton, most shooters have enough time to eat a meatball sub before hoisting up an uncontested shot.

    On offense, his three-point shooting has plummeted from 36.0 percent in 2012-13 to an unacceptable 29.9 percent. Felton is currently ranked 80th in three-point shooting among the 86 guards with at least 100 attempts.

    As this season has progressed, it has become increasingly clear that Felton's shooting last season was an aberration and not the norm. This season's 29.9 percent shooting mark may be closer to Felton's real shooting ability. He shot 30.5 percent during the 2011-12 season in Portland and averaged 30.3 percent during the three-year period from 2006 to 2009. Quite simply, Felton is not that good of a shooter.

    Yes, all of this is bad...but does it truly make Felton the worst?


    The Worst of the Worst

    Tom Lynn/Associated Press
    Has Felton been the worst point guard in the league in 2013-14? That depends...do Chris Smith's two minutes of playing time count?

    Statistically speaking, Felton has a very real case to be called the worst point guard in the NBA playing major minutes. There is no doubt that he is the worst veteran point guard earning major minutes.

    Among the 79 guards who have played at least 1,000 minutes, Felton ranks 73rd in Basketball-Reference's win-shares-per-48-minutes metric at .031 (.100 being average). Of the six players rated below Felton, only one is older than 22: Bucks shooting guard O.J. Mayo. The only two point guards—Victor Oladipo of the Orlando Magic and Trey Burke of the Utah Jazz—are both rookies.

    Oladipo is merely running the point this season as an experiment on a Magic team more concerned with player development than with winning; he is really more of a natural wing. Burke is a true point guard, but he has only played 36 games in his NBA career. Both are talented rookies who are likely to finish with efficiency ratings higher than Felton.

    Truly, Raymond Felton is the most inexcusably bad point guard in the league. He is only 29 years old and should be in his prime. Instead, he's tanking his NBA career and dragging the Knicks along with him.
     
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  2. TRIQSTER

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    Felton is horrible. Video is hilarious. I remember when he took over the spot for Jeremy Lin he publicly stated he was a better player than him. Very debatable. The guy stinks.

    Ranks 58th in Hollinger PER rankings for all PGS. Nothing close to what is expected of a STARTING point guard.

    Video was hilarious.
     
  3. SexyButIgnorant

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    Yeah, I'd agree with that. He's the worst starting PG in the league. I can't think of a worse one. Sucks to be a Knicks fan.
     
  4. Mathloom

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    It's not even debatable that Jeremy Lin is a significantly better player. Moreover, Lin works hard off the court. Felton is clearly hoovering cheeseburgers all day.
     
  5. afk

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    I saw this game. It was like watching basketball comedy.
     
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    Mike Woodson is a bad coach and does not know how to use Felton Spencer properly. In fact he is hurting Spencer's game. He is also not effective because Carmelo is on he team who is too ball dominant. If Spencer was in a different system, say like the Suns and had the opportunities like Dragic has, he would have been putting very similar numbers to Dragic.
     
  8. A New Age

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    that video is absolutely hysterical--I for one don't mind that it was already posted, I might never have read that other thread given the cryptic title, whereas this one . . . comedy gold. :grin:
     
  9. TRIQSTER

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    Referring to Melo as Honey Nut Cheerios hahaha. This guy is freaking hilarious!

    And about the comments about Felton, he is overdramatic but 100% correct. He had a half season of good basketball with the Knicks when Diantoni was the coach and everyone wants to sing their praise and remember that. But Felton is such a waste. He is horrible. I can't believe some people preferred him over CP3 and Deron when they we're getting drafted.
     
  11. tinywang

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    damnit I just used my waiver on felton for fantasy :(
     
  12. Classic

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    Yeah...hilarious.
     
  13. Deckard

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    Wow. I bet the Knicks would kill to have Jeremy back. Well, everyone associated with the Knicks besides Dolan, the idiot.
     
  14. MadMaxwell

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    yes, he is.
     
  15. Grigori

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    Imagine how much the Nets want Lin just to steal the Knicks fans.
     
  16. Deckard

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    It's surprising to me that we haven't heard serious rumors about the Russian dude jonesin' for Jeremy. It seems like it would fit his M.O. (the Russian!). Actually, that would make a good thread title.

    Jonesin' for Jeremy!
     
  17. afk

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    I want to feel sorry for them. But then again, they're the Knicks, so I don't.
     
  18. el gnomo

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    Was the video really that good? I made it to the 29 second mark before I had to shut it off... and I hate Raymond Felton. After reading the reactions, maybe I'll give it another chance.
     
  19. Yang_Wenli

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    I think the guy really overdramatizes the video. I'm sure Felton is probably one of the worst starting PG in the league, but NY has a pretty good record since he came back from his injury.
     
  20. da_juice

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    Agreed. I could not sit through that. His voice is awful and curses way too much to be taken seriously. He sounds like a 13 year old trying to be funny/cool by dropping f-bombs everywhere.
     

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