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Is Morey regretting the Twill deal?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. meh

    meh Contributing Member

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    One thing that gets underplayed a lot by fans is the offseason. Summer league, training camp, pre-season are all just as big a factor in player development as on-court play.

    If Williams is still not playing by this time next year, that's when you know the Rockets probably are writing him off.
     
  2. dobro1229

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    If he isn't getting consistent playing time as early as the trade deadline, it will blow up in Morey's face due to Twill's attitude. I had to unfollow him on Twitter because of his constant tweets with cleverly backhanded comments disguisingly thrown the way of the coaching staff for not playing him. Like this just posted a bit ago.

    Hahahhahhh in warm ups “@NJNBO: @TheRealTWill you playin tonight?”
    about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

    -I really dont see whats so funny about you not getting in the game tonight Terrence.

    -He has the skill to be starting now, but in order for the mid-season trade to go down that will send likely a couple different players away, the stock on all the rotation players must be at its maximum. If you bench Bud, Battier, Lee, etc. then their stock will be way down and will be harder to move those players.
     
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    Trading Bud makes no sense. He makes too little money to affect a trade, and his production to salary ratio is extraordinarily Moneyball sweet. Trading T-Will is much more attractive to a team with a star to shed.
     
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    By your own argument, CBud is the more desired piece in a trade.
     
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    Ummm, trading a second round pick and JERMAINE TAYLOR can never be a "regrettable" trade.

    No matter who you get in return.

    You could get Kwame Brown 5 years into his terrible career and it still wouldn't be regrettable.
     
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    Oops, meant to say non-lotto first rounder, which may as well be a second rounder :)
     
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    Fortunately, or unfortunately, no other GM is so enslaved to Moneyball mediocrity as the Rockets. That's not intended as a slur to Bud, but IMO Williams' potential is far more attractive to other teams regardless of productivity to salary.
     
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    twill just needs his shot with consistent minutes. he has the talent. but he needs alot of things to go his way for that to happen
     
  9. Francis3422

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    Ashishduh- You are probably the only person in the world that agrees with the statement you made there. How can you say the 17th pick in the draft is comparable to the first pick of the 2nd round. That is just stupid. I guess you could point to the difference in the wage scales but any GM in the league would flip there 2nd rounder for a pick thats just out of the lotto.
     
  10. saintja2

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    No, he probably isn't. As far as player value (ignoring the cost of buying picks/luxury tax implications), the math goes something like this:

    Value of a pick = [Value of the pick in particular year (i.e. the exact number of the pick, depth of the draft. roster spots etc., future trade value of the pick) +/- the cost of buying a similar pick that year +/- the cost of guaranteed contract]

    Not every draft has depth beyond the lottery. Late first may even have negative value because of the guaranteed contracts/roster spot.
     
    #50 saintja2, Jan 22, 2011
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