after making the barkley top 20 thread, i figured i'd see what everyone thinks of garnett's place on the all-time list. much like barkley, he was always thought of as a great player who couldn't win a title. he did eventually get the title but it's never talked about as the typical "alpha dog" title that most greats are evaluated by. like barkley, i would have him just inside the top 20, though i could probably be convinced otherwise. for reference, barkley's weighted average in the other poll was 24.8. relevant garnett information: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/garneke01.html REGULAR SEASON: 19.0 PPG 10.4 RPG 3.9 APG 1.3 SPG 1.5 BPG 2.3 TOPG 49.8/27.8/79.0 shooter 54.8 TS% 23.1 PER .187 WS/48 PLAYOFFS: 19.2 PPG 11.1 RPG 3.5 APG 1.3 SPG 1.4 BPG 2.5 TOPG 47.7/28.3/79.1 shooter 52.4 TS% 21.3 PER .150 WS/48 made 2 finals and won 1 title with the boston celtics. where do you have him on the all-time list?
They made the Finals again and were an Artest 3 from winning another title. Garnett is a top 20-25 player for sure. Defensively you will be hard pressed to find a better power forward and he at one point could guard 4 positions.
7th all-time in win shares, 32nd in playoff win shares, 30th in win shares/48, 20th in playoffs win shares/48... I'd say he's in the 26-30 range.
As a player perspective, not just a generalized winning perspective, he could do a ton of things on the court from defensively changing a game to offensively changing a game. I would say he is a top 20 player. The Big Ticket is a legend.
His prime year: 24.2 PPG, 14 REB, 5 AST, 1.5 STL, 2.2 BLK 50% from the field, 79% from the line. GOLD.
I remember with the timberwolves he was remembered for not being able to get out of the first and with celtics he is remembered for being the leader on a all time great team. just proves what contexts means
What. MVP. DPOY. The best player on a championship team. 15 time All Star. 9 Time All NBA. One of the greatest defensive players to ever play the game. My perspective? He's not that much worse than Kobe, and there's utterly no debate in my mind that he's far better than Barkley. As for that "alpha dog" crap,do people seriously not realize just how awful those Timberwolves teams were? Aside from 2004, they weren't any better than the stuff Kobe had around him from 2005 to 2007, and he couldn't get out of the first round either.
Better than him(no order): KAJ MJ Russell Magic Bird Duncan Kobe Wilt Shaq Hakeem Oscar LeBron And maybe West, Wade and Robinson.
Kevin Garnett is not so good this season yet. His RPG is 6.7, the #30 over all Forward. Here:http://ns.twhappy.com/?select=14,leader,pg,rpg,all,f Kevin Garnett's stats:http://ns.twhappy.com/?select=14,player,18
