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interesting article about Greg Oden & Brandon Roy's injury treatment

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by chao_gl, May 18, 2012.

  1. chao_gl

    chao_gl Member

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    http://zigsports.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/greg-oden-brandon-roy-what-what-happened/

    in the comments section it also mentioned Houston, Yao and Tracy

    "Jeremy Lin has some obvious glaring issues in his “body segment” postures which can be improved quickly. He may be “training with science” but only half of what could be used in assessing his performance. I have entire blog almost completed regarding Yao Ming and truly believe that he too can be back in the game (depending on damage done to his body by surgical procedures). In 2008, we tested some Houston Rockets during the NBA summer league in Las Vegas. At the time, the goal was to test their entire team. I repeatedly discussed the testing programs with their athletic trainers, specifically with regards to Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady, who were both suffering from chronic injuries. But after months of discussions, I was told that the testing was too expensive and not in the budget. From my feedback, the trainers wanted the testing, but management shot it down.
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  2. gah

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    Article has already been posted, but that quote alone was worth a thread, thanks for sharing.
     
  3. MemphisX

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    Lol...testing to expensive for guys making $15+ million?
     
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    When someone is knocking at your door with no previous results, why would you throw a ton of money at them on the wing and a prayer that they aren't quacks?

    There's a difference between this and paying for MR and CT imaging.
     
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    I guess i missed when this was posted earlier?

    It's a good read though and i think it's spot on. Every team should be doing this. Perhaps that would be a way to get the cost lowered. Bynum should get in on this, if he wants to be on the next level consistently.
     
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    And some people here blame players that leave their team after all the **** that happened to them due to cheap or ignorant management.
     
  7. RV6

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    Further down in the comments section:

     
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    So Yao isnt coming back?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    We cant tell if mcgrady and yao being tested would change the outcome, but it just shows that houston never went all out to try and preserve their stars.
     
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    Uhmmm - taking this with a whole bottle of salt. And I may wash it down with some koolaide.
     
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    "Dr." Tom Clanton is laughing somewhere.
     
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    Take most health advice with a grain of salt. Always in life when something does not go the way we want it to, we seek answers. What was done wrong? How could this have been prevented? All too often we will listen to anyone's BS if they are offering us something we want to hear, even if there may be no truth in the words. It's all part of the feeling of hopelessness that we get when we encounter health issues (and legal issues for that matter).

    Yao and Tracy are done. We need to just accept that and move on. Their bodies could not take the grind of a long NBA career; they weren't the first nor will they be the last. It's always good to look for state of the art training techniques, but there will never be a magic pill to completely eliminate the risk of injuries. The fact that every team in the nba deals with this (Portland with Oden and Roy, Milwaukee with Bogut, even champion Dallas lost Butler last year) says to me that we shouldn't blame the organization for the fates of these two players.
     
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    The fact is there are players out there who are durable beyond belief (Hakeem, Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, etc) and there are players whose bodies simply cannot take the physical abuse of multiple NBA seasons (T-Mac, Penny, Oden, Yao, etc). Whenever a team and a fanbase has to deal with the latter, they always want easy answers, and quick-fixes to get the player back on the court. The simple answer is that that particular player simply wasn't meant to have a long NBA career. I understand that there are measures that can be taken to prolong careers, and prevent injuries, but there is only so much that can be done. Eventually, the body is going to give out one way or another. There's a VERY fine line in sports medicine between established preventative methods, and experimental, pie-in-the-sky measures.
     
  14. RV6

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    Every team goes through this. That is the problem. Like the writer says, there will be another oden or another rose, or whoever, in the next draft. His point is that teams give up on players because it's easier to blame the player and move on to the next one, but that doesn't mean they're right about player's being done or having to be injury prone.

    Tmac is only done because he's done damage that he can't repair. However, he still came back and has continued to have a career, mainly because he finally addressed the imbalances he had accumulated over 10 plus years of compensation.

    Yao, on the other hand, is only done because he doesn't want to keep trying, only to fail again. He hasn't broken his body to the extent Tmac has. Yao is in a much better position to benefit from this testing. Now, they could test him and determine his mechanics were fine and his size and basketball just dont mix, but he wont know for sure, unless he does it. I think he should do it and give it one more try if there's mechanics to fix.


    Athletes are no different than everyone else when it comes to these issues. Some have good mechanics and some don't, and all that is influenced by their lives. Some grow up active and may luckily never have a freak injury, so they keep good mechanics. Others may just trip on someone's leg one day and start compensating and their mechanics will never be the same. Imagine an athlete who plays video games all the time. He may spend 5 hrs a day playing ball, but if he goes home to play for 6 more, then he's technically more sedentary than not. He can develop bad mechanics from that and when he gets on the court, he wont be the same.

    All this is science. It's not something that started last year. The reason why a lot of professionals don't welcome it is time and money. It's much easier to keep things the same, than spend money and time implementing and developing new treatments.
     
    #14 RV6, May 18, 2012
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