Correct. It's a simple go to when you're not hitting 3's. I know Morey wants emphasis on 3's and layups, but all out avoiding open midrange shots is not good basketball. I think this one thing is why we're not a GS caliber offense yet
you seem to forget about psychology...these players were raised on midrange...its like eating without salt because its not 100% healthy...midrange should not be viewed as efficient shot per se but like kinda calibrating device for 3pt and a tool for going into shooting trance
Why does 99% of the NBA still shoot way more mid-range and in leagues all around the world is it still a prominent shot and plenty of players thrive from that area? We're not doing something revolutionary or have figured something out. The Warriors have the talent and they actually incorporate mid-range into their game.
47 of our 83 shots from 3 tonight...only made 13 of them for 28% we are 27th in the NBA in 3 point percentage while shooting around 10 more threes a game than the next closest team
seriously, I.D.I.O.T. Dan Tony ain't doing **** to adjust, and we need to figure this **** out and draw it out on a board for this mofo.
So, am I still just talking out of my ass or are more people seeing it now? The stubborn 3pt shooting at all costs is just not effective and we’re so easy to defend this way, it’s not even funny!
F that. Paul can take midrange, that's it. Only the most elite should be taking them. And btw, that's what the Warriors do too - Durant is the only one taking a significant number of midrange shots. People talking ish about our 3pt shooting ignoring that Chris Paul is not on the floor and he is an elite 3pt shooter (I believe he even hits 50% on catch n shoot 3's). If it doesn't work when he's back, then let's talk. The big problem right now is Harden getting adjusted to the new rule. Which I think is awesome. He needs to figure this out before the playoffs instead of acting surprised that they officiate it differently in the post season. Now we know what we got before getting to the playoffs, and Harden is smart enough to figure it out.
Harden should be shooting more midrange at times. He's good at it. Hell, he should be shooting more period at the end of these games.
He's good, but good is not good enough. A good mid range shooter is not as effective as a poor FT shooter. Why would we tinker with one of the most efficient players in history on one of the most over achieving offenses in history? Sounds absurd to mess with the one thing that carried us. If you want to tinker, do it on transition offense and transition defense where we are unacceptable.
It's not even about 3s vs. 2s. We are lackadaisical out there. Not a lot of layers. Just walk it up, pass it a couple times and shoot.
Learning to love the NBA's middle: why the mid-range jumper still counts https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/feb/23/nba-three-pointer-mid-range-jumper Part of the problem is that the NBA’s much closer to rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock than a simple spreadsheet. Any strategic adaptations necessarily engender downstream changes, and ironically enough, it’s the mid-range jumper that stands to benefit. “If you study how pick-and-rolls are being played nowadays, it is a lot borne out of analytics – forcing long twos and contested twos,” says Sixers coach Brett Brown. “That long two is available all over the place, and some guys say fair enough, I’ll take it, and make a very high percentage like Tony Parker. He can make that in his sleep. It isn’t a three, but it’s a high percentage shot for him, especially in fourth periods.” The reason Brown mentions the fourth quarter is because if it’s close, that’s the point in the game when teams turn their defense up to playoff levels. Teams oriented around three-point shooting have struggled in the playoffs (like those oriented around fastbreaks) because those opportunities are easier to come by in the regular season. “During the regular season, teams want to have a staple of what they do. They’ll do the same thing to everyone and when the playoffs start they’ll tailor it to that team,” says one Eastern Conference GM. “So what happens is you have a lot of mid-range jump shooters who are getting free runs at midrange jump shots.” If you look at the league leaders in mid-range shooting percentage, they’re among the best players in the league. While there are still a few guys for whom the mid-range jumper is their main expertise (Mo Williams and Jordan Clarkson come to mind), it’s largely the province of guys with well-rounded games for whom the ability to stick an 18-footer is what separates them from the merely good. Guys like Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Stephen Curry, Damian Lillard and Chris Bosh shoot over 46% from mid-range. Others like Chris Paul, Pau Gasol, Carmelo Anthony, Serge Ibaka and Klay Thompson shoot over 44%. Even analytics have shown there is a time and place for the mid-range jumper, especially when the going gets tough. While contested lay-ups and open threes are preferable at most times, once the clock starts to run down, not only are they harder to come by, the shooting percentages on those shots decrease. During the final few ticks of the clock, not only is a mid-range shot more likely to be available, the quality of those chances have better outcomes than a forced three or lay-up in a crowd. This is doubly true during play-off time, when teams gameplan and redouble their defensive intensity. The ability to make those available mid-range shots can be the difference between winning and losing come play-offs. And as the ubiquity of the three has grown, teams are being even more aggressive chasing players off the line. “Teams are smart: they take away your three, they take away the lay-ups, so you gonna have to make an in-between shot. And it’s becoming that way more today,” says Raptors coach Dwayne Casey. “It’s one of the phenomena of today’s NBA: you want to shoot the threes and shoot lay-ups, but you better be a good in-between shooting team.” While fashion has focused on the three-pointer, it’s really just one threat in the best teams’ arsenals, accompanied by potential counter-measures should opponents take that away. In the end, it’s still depth of talent and flexibility that rules the day, not simply long-range shooting. “The way teams are defending the three-point line now is actually making it way more possible to do damage in the mid-range, if you have mid-range players,” says the Eastern Conference GM. “One of the reasons Golden State is so good is their efficiency at every shot range is really high, because they have a team that can make all of those shots.” ===================================================================== Seems like most GM/coaches in NBA have healthy balanced view towards 3s vs mid-range shots and actually understand that there are still certain moments during the game where the mid J is the best option available. But not this team.
It's clearly down because of his not attacking the basket as much. If we tinker now, it's to get him back to his usual historical offensive impact which needs to tinkering whatsoever.
Agree that he should attack the basket more. But he also needs to recognize when there's rim protection to be open to other shots.
Yes. If there are multiple players blocking the rim, someone should be open for a 3, which is better than stopping n popping.
Every night, every game ever in the history of the NBA. If he is double teamed, there is someone open. It's the rules you see. There are 5 players on the court for each team.
