If the starting lineup is not . . . ill lose my mind

Thats what i think the starting line up will be

 

If we keep rafer

Alston/James
Tracy/Francis
Battier/Bonzi
Scola/Hayes
Yao/Deke

Without rafer
Francis/James
Tracy/Bonzi
Battier/Snyder
Scola/hayes
Yao/Deke
Personally i think we might keep rafer.

 

Thank god someone finally put Hayes in the starting lineup. We need rebounding! Scola can't even rebound in the wussy leagues. Most people who have him starting haven't seen him play, 50% probably hadn't ever heard that name until last month!!!

Reminds me exactly of last year. Spanoulis was supposed to be the savior. It caught on like wildfire. People had seen him play maybe 1 game yet put all their faith into an unproven player.

Foreign players rarely have an impact worthy of putting them in the starting lineup on a playoff team. I don't see how Scola is different. We still need a veteran to solidify the position.

Good lineup rcktsfan1. I agree with it completely. Battier is another necessity I see a lot of people shafting in favor of a small lineup.

 

Scola is different from Spanoulis. He has much more of a track record than Spanoulis did. Scola is a much more proven player in Europe.

You know just as little about how Scola will do in the NBA as those you say know nothing about Scola, so your negative assessment is not worth more than their positive assessment.

 

I know historically these guys don't contribute their first year. Its a little absurd to assume he is ready to bang with Boozer, Duncan, Garnett, etc... My opinion may be worthless, fair enough. But it seems much more reasonable.

Or maybe Van Gundy's contagious pessimism hasn't worn off on me yet...

 

Gasol contributed his first year. He played in the same league as Scola, and was much more unproven at the time he came to the NBA.

Gasol played in the Spanish ACB League for FC Barcelona, where he had an average of 11.3 points per game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pau_Gasol

 

Like SJC has said Gasol contributed in his first year, and he was much less proven. Normal players coming to the NBA for Europe are not proven in Europe, they get selected on potential, not on what they have already showed in Europe. Scola already showed a lot in Europe, so comparing him with people that didn't do anything in Europe is unfair to him.
Maybe you can use Sabonis as a reference he also was a superstar in Europe (which back then had less quality than it does now), and he contributed in his first year.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/arvydas_sabonis/

so like SJC said

 

Gasol's team won less than 30 games. And he is just 1 case. There are always exceptions. There is more evidence suggesting Scola will not have a major impact. I am buying in until I see he can actually rebound.

Sabonis is another story. If Scola had half the reputation Sabonis did I would be jumping through the roof.

 

We have a world championship medalist and an Euroleague MVP on our lap and we worry about him starting before Hayes? Chuck freaking Hayes? the no offense, undersized backup power forward who may prabobly back up Scola on his past teams?

I like Hayes, but this lovefest is getting out of hand. How about think about why Hayes is still unsigned until this now? Why the Rockets don't sign him asap if they consider him as out STARTING pf? Whatever it means, the fact that Hayes is being put on hold speaks volume on his stature in the management's eyes.

If Hayes still starts next season, I'll lose my mind.

 

If Hayes goes you'll lose your mind when Scola plays 32mpg and only manages 6.5 rebounds. I guess if you were satisfied with Howard you can cope. I don't love Hayes. I love rebounding. One of the most important aspects of basketball.

There is an exception to the rebounding rule. The 93-95 Rockets. They couldn't rebound. Its very rare. Just like Scola having an impact will be rare.

Haha. I love getting you guys worked up.

 

That bird looks tall. Probably has a better chance of defending Amare than Scola. I kid.

Another point though... You want consistency in your starting lineup. Hayes and Battier provide that along with much needed defense. Having a rookie start is a risk. Even if Scola is ready I doubt he is consistent. I doubt he brings much defense. He has potential to become a good defender but he hasn't banged with NBA posts on a regular basis.

 

Where did the myth originate that Scola can't rebound?

I'm willing to place a bet with anyone who thinks he's going to be a poor rebounder in the NBA. Proceeds go to the tip jar. Any takers?

 

Sugarcoat rebounding all you want, 6.5 rebounds per 30 minutes players who gets the job done on offense makes way more money than an one dimensional rebounding specialist. See Marice Taylor who makes a big pie of which Hayes would want a small slice off of. Grabing one rebound a tad below every 5 minutes is average, but nothing to lose mind on.

If Hayes is that good he wouldn't be giving the cold feet right now, and he would be able to play more than 23 minutes a game competing against JHo last season, which he failed to do. He's hustle player, his rebounding may go down fast if he's a full time starter.

 

Do we really need another scorer? We are now loaded with offensive talent. Who is going to do the dirty work? We need some players than go things without the ball.

The "myth" that Scola can't rebound comes via Clutchfans...

And thats not against NBA veterans.

 

I hope we re-sign Hayes. I think we are going to be fine with Scola and Hayes at the PF position - one seems to be more offensive-minded, the other more of a defense/rebounding specialist. It's a good mix. I'd still be ecstatic if we could somehow get a guy like Camby, but if Scola and Hayes split the PF minutes sort of evenly, I wouldn't have a problem with it, no matter who starts.

 

(Applause) Thankyou. (Applause)

Perfectly stated. Moneyball may not even sign Hayes. Naaaw. He will, but I wonder if Butler will emerge as a backup to both Scola and Yao.

 

All numbers are lower in Europe. The games are shorter.

 

40min games. Durant was getting 9+ rebounds in the NCAA. Now he has what... 9 TOTAL in the summer league? I am not trying to troll. Just trying to get a different perspective in. Seems like EVERYONE is eating up Scola.