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Hypothetical - ALDS -Pitching

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by mkahanek, Sep 26, 2019.

  1. mkahanek

    mkahanek Member
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    Ok. More of a good chance this happens.

    But ALDS. Game 4.

    No matter who's leading 2-1 do you:

    A. Pitch JV on three days rest?

    B. Pitch Wade pm.jpg Miley?

    If we are leading 2-1 and lose. Then it is a winner take all with JV taking the bump against? Manea?? Snell? CFM?

    If we are down 2-1 do you take that risk.

    Also. What about planning ahead??. Flip JV and COLE. So if we do go to a game 4 in the division series we could pitch a younger Garrett Cole on 3 days instead of 36 year old JV.

    Miley wetting the bed has really put a wrinkle in the playoff rotation.

    Or do you take a chance on a bullpen game? Start Josh and hope for 2. Go Peacock and hope for 2. Urquidy gives you 2 then you have Harris, Pressley and Osuna doing their normal thing.

    I think I prefer to sweep whoever we play in the LDS as game 4 scares me. It could be elimination of US or going to a one game winner take all.

    Before automatically saying pitch JV or COLE on 3 days. Since 2000 in the post season. Pitchers on 3 days rest have won only 37% of the time. Not too good. I guess if we play a game 4 we better hope the bats are rolling.
     
  2. AznH-TownFan

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    We go with JV if we’re down 2-1. Going with Miley would be like surrendering the series to me. If we’re up 2-1, I wouldn't mind having JV available in the bullpen if it a close game like we did against Boston in 2017. Either way, we’re in good shape with Cole going game 5 or game 1 of ALCS.
     
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    I think either way (whether we're up 2-1 or down 1-2) I would rather get JV out there for 5 innings, hope our offense is clicking, and turn the rest of the game over to the bullpen. The Astros have tremendous luxury/advantage in putting JV out there to close/save the ALDS to only have Cole be the Game 1 starter in the ALCS.

    If that's not the path Hinch is taking I hope he uses the bullpen rotation for Game 4 in lieu of Miley. I'm sure I'm not the only one in thinking that Wade's done.
     
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    Interesting point about potentially pitching Cole in Game 1, so that he could go on 3 days rest, then JV is available for Game 5 or ALCS Game 1 on regular rest, and each would end up getting two starts. I think it just depends on how you foresee either of them going on 3 days rest. Whoever you think would be better should maybe, possibly, get the Game 1 start.
     
  5. marks0223

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    Up 2-1 it's probably Miley but Hinch will have a quick hook. I hope Urquidy earns his spot on the playoff roster tonight. He's likely the long relief in a Miley game.

    Didn't need a 4th starter in the DS last year...let's do that again.
     
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    Hypothetical - LSD -Pitching

    That is what I thought I saw :oops:
     
  7. awc713

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    There was a point this year where I was thinking we could offer a QO to Miley...not so much anymore. Wonder what the issue is. He was crushing it for 4 months...
     
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    Miley was never getting a QO...

    So, I say we just solve this sticky situation by sweeping, same as last year. Miley doesn't toss a pitch in the post season if it's me.
     
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    In 2017... JV pitched in game 4.
     
  10. Nook

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    You role with Miley and have Peacock ready to go.
     
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    He did. In relief. Gave up a 2 run bomb to his first batter.
     
  12. Rock Block

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    Hear hear. Sweep(s) would be best case scenarios altough a tad unrealistic.

    So is Miley left off altogether for the DS ? Or does he become a lefty match up out of the BP? Hinch doesnt seem to care much about a lefty from the BP
     
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    Please change the title to ALDS. I thought you were putting together an all Mormon starting rotation.
     
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    I think you role with Urquidy and Peacock and give Miley's spot to another pen arm. Miley has had enough time to show he is over the mental/physical collapse. He's done.
     
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    I can respect that, I just don’t have much more confidence in either of them right now.

    The reality is losing McCullers hurt a lot more than expected. He would be perfect to take the ball in game 4.
     
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    Roy Halladay
    Jack Morris
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  17. Hank McDowell

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    If you put Miley out there, he has to be on an extremely short leash, as in, someone warming up in the bullpen right away just in case he ***** the bed kind of a short leash. I think you start him but pull him the minute he starts to crumble. Maybe you get lucky.
     
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    Depends who we face. Tampa is loaded with left handed hitters (Wendle, Meadows, Lowe, Choi, Kiermaier). I would still run Miley out.

    A's usually only have Olson and Profar as a lefty so I might go Urquidy followed by Peacock.
     
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    It's got to be Urquidy. He's been the most consistent this year at giving about half a game. I really was holding out hope on Miley getting it together, but time is up. I don't even see him on the roster.
     
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    When in McHugh supposed ready? or is he officially shut down for the season?
     
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