Humans: Unusually Murderous Mammals, Typically Murderous Primates

@Ziggy
99ers dropping culture, now we drop science

It's human nature, we're primates

You don't have to tell me what would happen if there was no law
i'm not talking about now, i'm talking about prehistoric man to 5000 years from now

https://www.theatlantic.com/science...ammals-but-averagely-violent-primates/501935/

It’s likely that primates are especially violent because we are both territorial and social—two factors that respectively provide motive and opportunity for murder. So it goes for humans. As we moved from small bands to medium-sized tribes to large chiefdoms, our rates of lethal violence increased.

But once we formed large states, “institutions like the rule of law reduced rates of lethal violence below what one would expect for a mammal with our ancestry and ecology, and below what has been observed in human societies in earlier periods and with simpler forms of social organization,” says Steven Pinker from Harvard University. He argued as much in his book The Better Angels of Our Nature, but says that Gómez’s team have done so “with greater precision, rigor, and depth; I wish this study had been available when I wrote the book.”





The authors used the fact that closely related species usually show similar rates of interpersonal violence to predict a 2 percent rate of lethal violence among humans. That means that 2 out of every 100 human deaths would be a murder taking into account only our place on the evolutionary tree, and nothing about political pressures, technology or social norms.

In comparison, among mammals in general just 0.3 percent of deaths are murders. For the common ancestor of primates, the rate is 2.3 percent.

With 2 percent as a human baseline, we come across as both uncommonly peaceful for primates and uncommonly violent for mammals.

 

You can put human nature theory on any event. political or not.

For example, Seattle and CHAZ where there was no rule of law and that humans were as 'free people'
Of course you know someone is going to get murdered, because there's no consequence

People will kill each other if you let them

It's no Yoko Ono and John Lennon song in human history

 

God?
I'm assuming he made the primates, the primates will murder and these primates such as meerkats and lions
don't vote red or blue

 

Yeah , best video game discussion threads there

This make belief world of Conservative vs Liberal discussion in this dark corner of Clutchfans would
never impact any murder rates in America, India, or the rest of the world

because it's human nature to kill

 

Science is not a shtick

Science and understanding of human history is the only way to solve problems

For example,

we have a pandemic . If people understood science more, they wouldn't go eat bats or hang out with 10K people without a vaccine

 

The study shows:

But once we formed large states, “institutions like the rule of law reduced rates of lethal violence"

The murder rate in other countries are less because each citizen believes in the rule of law and not anarchy
Japan's murder rate is much lower than ours

 

It's a belief to quell our primate desire for violence.

Humans have the extra factor of religion, where all religions mostly preach that you shouldn't kill someone or you will pay the consequences in Hell

Governments and law should cause you to think about the same consequences but in the current world, not the after life, if it exists.

 

The study is about murder for the same species

humans have killed humans, just like other primates do

this is actually a law that was famously made in a movie which was proven to not work


@Os Trigonum

 

I added that it was an 'extra' factor

the study said , just on evolution alone, 2 percent of the population are murderers

again,

I didn't write this article,
I had no idea Meerkats were so violent to each other