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How much will Rivers and Faried get on the open market?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheRealAllpro, Jan 21, 2019.

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  1. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    With all this talk about Morey signing scrubs and minimum wage McDowell players. What is the true value of each. Both will be on 3rd contracts.

    Faried signed an extension that kicked in 2015 for 4/50, 12.5 a year, when the cap was 71 mil. So 17.6% of the cap. The cap projection is 109 mil next year. ( We should get another projection in April) So at the same 17.6% he would make 19.2 mil a year

    Rivers signed for 3/35.5, 11.83 mil a season in 2016, when the cap was 94 mil or 12.5% of the cap. That would be 13.7 mil in 2019.

    Can either one of these players hope to get anything close that same percentage of the cap? Can D'antoni's system bring out the best value of each player? I personally thing there is a cogent argument that could be made that Morey's philosophy of roster building by waiting to sign buyout players to fill out the rotation has created tremendous value that would have not been available due to salary cap restrictions in the summer.

    Discuss.
     
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  2. BigBum

    BigBum Member

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    Market will be better this summer.
    New cba
    One year deal
    Rivers 8 mil
    House 4 mil
    Faried 3 mil or vet min

    3 guys = ariza salary

    Tilman needs 15 mil new cash plus dire tax if knight stays.
    I have no idea why knight stays here so long.
     
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  3. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Faried won't get much. He is only useful for teams like the Rockets. However, I can see Austin Rivers getting most of some team's MLE.
     
    #3 rockbox, Jan 21, 2019
  4. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Let the season play out but would expect rivers to get an mle offer at least.

    Faried is minimum or exception type money no way he gets full mle
     
    #4 justtxyank, Jan 21, 2019
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Really tough to tell right now. Like others said, have to let the season play out. Also, in terms of the Rockets being able to re-sign guys, if they like the ROLE/FIT on the team moving forward, they may take less (versus the market) to sign here. Everyone's motives and priorities are different.
     
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    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Premature. Have to wait for playoff performance.

    Good comps for 1yr players who benefitted from playing with Harden in MDA system.
    • Luc got $4.3m, even with an injury, after terrible playoffs
    • Nene got $3.5m at age 54, also after a playoff injury
    • Green took minimum, because I-45
    Use that “only useful to Rockets argument” on Harrell. Faried’s game is nearly identical.
    Harrell got $6m

    Nene got $11m for 3yrs, after his first year with us, off an injury playoffs.
     
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  7. topfive

    topfive CF OG

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    Can't discuss until I know what "McDowell players" are. Please enlighten.
     
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  8. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    Can we wait to see Faried first ????? can we wait till post season?
     
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  10. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    Why? That’s the whole fun. You guess now before you know.
     
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    :eek: < sacrilegious!
     
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    topfive CF OG

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    Ah. Of course! Derp.
     
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    I love the people answering the Faried question before he’s even played a game for us
     
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    D*MN . . .we cannot wait to look for issues and problems and distractions

    Rocket River
     
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    It’s about planning. It’s not about how good is faried.

    Critical thing is knight contract.

    Tilman wants vet min to replace all 3 if knight stays here.
     
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    Tillman is broke & can't afford.

    As @Ziggy says, NEXT.

    Whatever it is, it'll be too much.

    Chris Paul deal, it's just too much!
    Trevor one year $15 million, it's just too much!
    Luc $4 million it's just too much!
    Danuel $1 million it's just too much!

    Too too much!
     
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  17. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    Interesting. I take it completely different. I just assume we only have him for this year.

    I meant this as a compliment. Like look at how we have this player we can’t really afford.
     
    #17 TheRealAllpro, Jan 21, 2019
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    I’m more looking forward to seeing rivers when cp3 is healthy
     
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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Yo you should stop posting for a bit I’m serious man.
     
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