How many centers in the NBA are better than Asik?

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  1. bmd

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    Based on ppg, rebounds, blocks, and PER, there are plenty of centers better than Asik.

    But that doesn't really take into account defense.

    So how many centers do you think are better than Asik overall?
     
  2. bmd

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    Here are some choices:

    Dwight Howard
    Tim Duncan
    Marc Gasol
    Andrew Bogut
    Joachim Noah
    Al Jefferson
    Tyson Chandler
    Roy Hibbert
    Nene
    Dwight Howard
    Nikola Pekovic
    Nikola Vučević
    Brook Lopez
    Anderson Varejao
    DeAndre Jordan
     
  3. bmd

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    I put Dwight Howard twice. Replace one with Marcin Gortat.
     
  4. rev1274

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    Duncan and Tyson.
     
  5. Sydeffect

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    DeAndre is not better than Asik. But as for fit I would take Asik over most of the guys you listed. Player wise, I agree with everyone on that list except for Jordan
     
  6. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Haha Asik is better than half of these scrubs
     
  7. mirus

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    overall ,or u want to rank offensive/defensive separately?
     
  8. bmd

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    Overall.
     
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    Is Asik better than....

    Dwight Howard - no
    Tim Duncan - no
    Marc Gasol - equal
    Andrew Bogut - equal
    Joachim Noah - equal
    Al Jefferson - no
    Tyson Chandler - no
    Roy Hibbert - yes
    Nene - yes
    Nikola Pekovic - equal
    Nikola Vučević - yes
    Brook Lopez - no
    Anderson Varejao - yes
    DeAndre Jordan - yes

    just my opinion, but I'm an Asik fan.
     
  10. KingLeoric

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    A lot but I would rather have Asik than most of them cause he fits this team.
     
  11. bmd

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    Thats not the people I have listed ahead of Asik, I was just listing some centers to refresh you guys' memory.
     
  12. RickyNewport

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    Don't forget Earl Monroe up in Detroit (are whatever his name is)...

    Of course there are better centers but Asik for the money is a bargain. Would be better if we had a better backup for him though.
     
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    Dwight Howard
    Tim Duncan
    Marc Gasol
    Andrew Bogut
    Joakim Noah
    Al Jefferson
    Tyson Chandler
    DeAndre Jordan
     
  14. bmd

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    Equal to Marc Gasol?
     
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    Maybe 5 centers who are distinctively good.

    After that, it's a big muck of inconsistent players or consistently mediocre centers.

    League wide weaksauce talent compared to other positions.
     
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    I would rank him top 5. It is hard to compare some players like B. Lopez who is much better offensively but much worse defensively.
     
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    Who in that list is Asik better than? MAYBE Hibbert, and DeAndre. Both maybe's to the Nikola's
     
  18. rogower

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    Based on the advanced stats that I'm looking at, here's the list:

    1 Tyson Chandler
    2 Joakim Noah
    3 Andre Drummond
    4 J.J. Hickson
    5 Marc Gasol
    6 Anderson Varejao
    7 Nikola Vucevic
    8 Tim Duncan
    9 Dwight Howard
    10 Tiago Splitter
    11 Larry Sanders

    And you could make the argument for adding these dudes to the list:

    11 Ed Davis
    12 Nick Collison
    13 Brendan Wright
    14 DeAndre Jordan
    15 Kosta Koufos
    16 Emeka Okafor
    17 Andrew Bogut
    18 JaVale McGee
    19 Robin Lopez

    However, if you factor in the fact that Asik is signed to a pretty reasonable three year, $25 mil contract and is extremely durable--two huge factors--then this would be my list:

    1 Tyson Chandler
    2 Joakim Noah
    3 Andre Drummond (dude is a hoss!)
    4 Marc Gasol
    5 Nikola Vucevic
    6 Tim Duncan
    7 Dwight Howard
    8 Larry Sanders

    I'd leave off Hickson because this guy is about to become exorbitantly expensive and I also don't trust that he will keep up this level of production once somebody gives him $40+ mil this summer. Obviously Varejao cannot seem to stay healthy, so I'd leave him off. I'm also leaving off Splitter because he's going to be overpaid by somebody this summer (I think he also gets $40+ mil). [If you guys don't think Hickson and Splitter both get at least $40 mil this summer, that's fine, but I completely disagree.] Based on Howard's injury issues and the massive amount of money ($100+ mil) that he's going to get this summer (along with all of his baggage), one could make the argument that he doesn't deserve to be on this list, either, but I'm not quite prepared to make that argument (it's tempting, though!).

    Asik provides excellent value and is a real asset, no doubt.
     
  19. rogower

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    Dudes I've left off of my list (i.e., I'd take Asik over any of these dudes):

    Andrew Bogut: very expensive, obviously very injury-prone
    Al Jefferson: very expensive, not getting any younger, not especially efficient
    Roy Hibbert: very expensive, inconsistent, not especially efficient
    Nene Hilario: very expensive, very injury-prone
    Nikola Pekovic: pretty good, but will get $40+ mil this summer, significantly more $/year than Asik gets, and probably not quite as good of a player
    Brook Lopez: grossly overpaid, incredibly overrated, has had injury problems
    Chris Bosh: very expensive, mediocre rebounder, kind of a whiner, seems kind of dumb
    Greg Monroe: arguably more desirable due to his "upside" but not quite the player that Asik is right now
    DeMarcus Cousins: arguably more desirable due to his "upside" but just too much of a drama queen
    Andrew Bynum: very expensive, extremely injury prone, questionable maturity level
    Pau Gasol: insanely expensive, not getting any younger, presently injured
     
  20. SuperStar

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    I say he's top 10 at least... top 5 if he works on finishing around the basket.
     

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