How good of a defensive coach is Lionel Hollins really?

bmd · May 21, 2016

Dave Joerger is the one often credited with the Grizzlies good defense.

dkoune · May 21, 2016

Riiiiiiiight

bmd · May 21, 2016

dkoune said: ↑

Riiiiiiiight
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"Joerger is in the midst of his third season as Grizzlies head coach. He was an assistant under Lionel Hollins previously in Memphis, often credited with designing Memphis' intimidating defensive style. "

"The man credited with building a Grizzlies defense that ranked second in the league this season has been considered a front-runner for the position since shortly after Lionel Hollins' contract was not renewed."

"With Memphis, he quickly made his mark as well. Hollins promoted him to lead assistant in 2011, and the team rose from the mid-20's in defensive efficiency to a top-10 squad built around grit and grind the past three years. Joerger's defensive know-how, ability make him a perfect match for one of the more analytics-heavy front offices in the NBA."

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/25/4462162/memphis-grizzlies-dave-joerger-head-coach
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/memphis-grizzlies-dave-joerger-hot-seat-coach-121415

Dave Joerger is the mastermind behind Memphis' "Grit 'n' Grind" defense. Not Hollins...

J.R. · May 21, 2016

Great! J.B. Bickerstaff part deux and a guy who is a "defensive genius" when it was really his assistant.

Not long ago, success as a head coach in the Continental Basketball Association was a reliable predictor of success in the NBA. Phil Jackson, George Karl and Flip Saunders, among others, all came up through the minor leagues before landing on an NBA bench. So did Joerger, who won five championships in seven seasons as a head coach in the IBA, CBA and D-League -- all before turning 35 years old.

“He loves the craft,” says an NBA general manager. “Look what he’s done with [the Memphis] defense. He’s got Thibodeau’s thing for defense, but he’s a lot more likable than Thibs.”

When Lionel Hollins delegated the Memphis’ defensive game plan to Joerger, the Grizzlies were the league’s 24th-ranked defense. In the three seasons since, they’ve finished ninth, then seventh and now second in defensive efficiency, and they did it with Zach Randolph at power forward and an unusually small point guard in Mike Conley. It’s rare that NBA players cite their assistants by name, but Tony Allen routinely praises Joerger’s defensive blueprint as an essential ingredient in the Grizz’s success.

Joerger loves to problem-solve and grapple with game theory, and he has an appreciation of analytics. He knows which NBA point guards, in descending order, reject screens most frequently and understands how to impart that information to players. Most of all, Joerger has an acute awareness of what each player on the roster can and can't do. Randolph won't be asked to perform Joakim Noah tasks, and a unit's collective shortcomings are priced into coverage schemes.

Every NBA team these days wants to patent a defensive system, and those in search of an architect have a natural candidate in Joerger.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/57826/whos-ready-to-be-an-nba-head-coach
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2007-08 Memphis Grizzlies(Marc Iavaroni)
PTS/G: 100.7 (10th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 106.9 (28th of 30)
SRS: -5.75 (24th of 30) ▪ Pace: 95.3 (7th of 30)
Off Rtg: 105.0 (22nd of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 111.4 (28th of 30)

2008-09 Memphis Grizzlies(Iavaroni/Johnny Davis/Lionel Hollins)
PTS/G: 93.9 (29th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 99.3 (14th of 30)
SRS: -5.22 (26th of 30) ▪ Pace: 90.1 (20th of 30)
Off Rtg: 103.5 (28th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 109.5 (21st of 30)

2009-10 Memphis Grizzlies(Hollins)
PTS/G: 102.5 (7th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 104.0 (24th of 30)
SRS: -1.39 (17th of 30) ▪ Pace: 93.6 (10th of 30)
Off Rtg: 108.3 (13th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 109.9 (19th of 30)

2010-11 Memphis Grizzlies(Hollins)
PTS/G: 99.9 (12th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 97.6 (13th of 30)
SRS: 2.55 (10th of 30) ▪ Pace: 91.9 (15th of 30)
Off Rtg: 107.6 (16th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 105.1 (9th of 30)

2011-12 Memphis Grizzlies(Hollins)
PTS/G: 95.0 (20th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 93.0 (5th of 30)
SRS: 2.43 (10th of 30) ▪ Pace: 90.8 (18th of 30)
Off Rtg: 104.0 (19th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 101.8 (7th of 30)

2012-13 Memphis Grizzlies(Hollins)
PTS/G: 93.4 (27th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 89.3 (1st of 30)
SRS: 4.32 (6th of 30) ▪ Pace: 88.4 (30th of 30)
Off Rtg: 104.9 (17th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 100.3 (2nd of 30)

2013-14 Memphis Grizzlies(Dave Joerger)
PTS/G: 96.1 (27th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 94.6 (3rd of 30)
SRS: 2.18 (13th of 30) ▪ Pace: 89.9 (30th of 30)
Off Rtg: 106.3 (15th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 104.6 (7th of 30)

2014-15 Memphis Grizzlies(Joerger)
PTS/G: 98.3 (20th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 95.1 (2nd of 30)
SRS: 3.62 (8th of 30) ▪ Pace: 92.0 (26th of 30)
Off Rtg: 105.7 (13th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 102.2 (3rd of 30)

2015-16 Memphis Grizzlies(Joerger)
PTS/G: 99.1 (24th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 101.3 (11th of 30)
SRS: -2.14 (20th of 30) ▪ Pace: 93.3 (27th of 30)
Off Rtg: 105.4 (19th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 107.8 (19th of 30)
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2014-15 Brooklyn Nets(Hollins)
PTS/G: 98.0 (21st of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 100.9 (18th of 30)
SRS: -3.13 (24th of 30) ▪ Pace: 92.7 (24th of 30)
Off Rtg: 104.4 (20th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 107.4 (23rd of 30)

2015-16 Brooklyn Nets(Hollins/Tony Brown)
PTS/G: 98.6 (26th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 106.0 (24th of 30)
SRS: -7.12 (28th of 30) ▪ Pace: 95.2 (19th of 30)
Off Rtg: 103.2 (27th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 110.9 (29th of 30)
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Downtown Sniper · May 21, 2016

I'd take Hollins just for the fact that I can rest easy knowing if some players pull the ***** they did this season - they're getting hands put on them on the bench.

As opposed to walking past the coach and hearing "hey, what up G, good effort out there. Don't worry about those 19 turnovers bruh. We still good for the bottle service and VIP dancefloor at the club tonight? Aiight no worries homie just have a breather and we'll put you right back in"

J Sizzle · May 21, 2016

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of Hollins but if it gets us Silas over MDA I'm cool.

Houston79Astro · May 21, 2016

I think Hollins doesn't like to run zone defense very often, which is cool with me. Man D is the best way to go.

OTMax · May 21, 2016

Check out the new chron article, he will not be solely in charge of defense so that's great news!!

bmd · May 21, 2016

Houston79Astro said: ↑

I think Hollins doesn't like to run zone defense very often, which is cool with me. Man D is the best way to go.
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Very few teams run a zone.

bmd · May 21, 2016

bmd said: ↑

Very few teams run a zone.
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And when they do it's only for a short time to give a different look.

OTMax · May 21, 2016

Crazy how we never interviewed Joerger.

CCity Zero · May 21, 2016

Downtown Sniper said: ↑

I'd take Hollins just for the fact that I can rest easy knowing if some players pull the ***** they did this season - they're getting hands put on them on the bench.

As opposed to walking past the coach and hearing "hey, what up G, good effort out there. Don't worry about those 19 turnovers bruh. We still good for the bottle service and VIP dancefloor at the club tonight? Aiight no worries homie just have a breather and we'll put you right back in"
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Lol, it was also like "0-30, from 3???! Don't worry about it, you'll still be starting and get starters minutes!! I love you, Brew!!" JBB played Brewer like he was his best friend, or maybe there was a bet on how long he could last as HC doing whatever he wanted to...

Mathloom · May 21, 2016

Very good, but if your defense and offense don't allow each other to be great then it's pointless. Coaches who can design a great defensive system are a dime a dozen if the impact of that defense on the offense is not considered.

The goal is to find someone who can implement an efficient defense which is conducive to efficient offense. And I'm not talking about whining in post game about the players not running or moving enough, which is what most people like Hollins do when in reality they don't understand the whole court.

motleydeflep6 · May 21, 2016

OTMax said: ↑

Crazy how we never interviewed Joerger.
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I think he was a lock for Sac town.

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