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Hizbollah Slams Beheading of American as Un-Islamic

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  1. mulletman

    mulletman Member

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    You want a Muslim outcry? Here it is! By a terrorist group noless.

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    BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon's Hizbollah guerrilla group condemned Wednesday the beheading of an American hostage by Iraqi militants as an ugly crime that flouted the tenets of Islam.

    "Hizbollah condemns this horrible act that has done very great harm to Islam and Muslims by this group that claims affiliation to the religion of mercy, compassion and humane principles," the Shi'ite Muslim group said in a statement.

    An Islamist Web site Tuesday carried a video clip of the execution of the man who identified himself as Nick Berg, with a statement saying a group linked to al Qaeda did it in revenge for the abuse of Iraqis by U.S. troops.

    Hizbollah said Berg's killing had diverted the world's gaze from an escalating furor over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by occupation soldiers.

    "The timing of this act that overshadowed the scandal over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners in occupation forces prisons is suspect timing that aims to serve the American administration and occupation forces in Iraq and present excuses and pretexts for their inhumane practices against Iraqi detainees."

    The Syrian-backed group which the United States deems "terrorist" said the executors' behavior was closer to "the Pentagon school -- the school of killing and occupation and crimes and torture and immoral practices that were exposed by the great scandal in occupation prisons."

    Washington blames Hizbollah, whose attacks forced Israeli troops to withdraw from south Lebanon in 2000 after a 22-year occupation, for 1980s suicide bombings against its embassy and Marines barracks and the abduction of Westerners in Beirut.

    http://au.news.yahoo.com//040512/15/oyu8.html
     
    #1 mulletman, May 13, 2004
  2. mc mark

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    Calling MadMax
     
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  3. mc mark

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    More Condemnation from the Arab world...

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    Three Arab states condemn American's beheading

    Saudi Arabia, Jordan, UAE decry 'barbaric act'

    (CNN) -- Three Arab states -- Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates --- are condemning the beheading of American Nicholas Berg by his Iraqi captors, shown in a video that appeared on an Islamist Web site.

    "There is no doubt that killing detainees and mutilating the remains of the dead are acts which are condemned by all religions and contrary to the morals of all nations and peoples," Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar bin Sultan said in a statement released Wednesday.

    "The Al-Zarqawi group is a criminal, deviant and un-Islamic group, allied with bin Laden and the criminals of Al Qaeda who are killing even Muslims and Arabs for no reason.

    "Accordingly, it is not out of character for them to commit acts that violate the teachings of Islam, a noble religion that deplores such acts."

    UAE: 'We are ashamed'

    The Jordanian Embassy in Washington issued its own release, decrying the beheading.

    "Jordan strongly condemns the barbaric act committed against Mr. Nick Berg, a U.S. contractor in Iraq, by the terrorist group headed by Abu Al Zarqawi.

    "Jordan has issued a death sentence against Al Zarqawi for his terrorist activities which threatened to kill thousands of Jordanian citizens and for plotting attacks against U.S. and foreign interests in Jordan."

    The United Arab Emirates called the killing a "heinous crime against the civilized world."

    "We are ashamed because these terrorists carried out this revolting and inhumane act in the name of our religion and culture," UAE Information Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan said in a written statement. "This disgusting brutality can never be justified and has nothing to do with Islam or with our Arab values."

    He also extended the UAE's condolences to the family of Berg, saying, "We pray for them to find the courage and strength to deal with their loss."

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/13/iraq.berg/index.html
     
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  4. MadMax

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    AWESOME!!!

    is it possible these guys check out Clutchfans.net...and they just took a liking to me??? :D

    still a little concerned about the moral authority of Hizbollah....but great start!!!!
     
    #4 MadMax, May 13, 2004
  5. mc mark

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    who couldn't like you max?



    :cool:
     
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  6. MadMax

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    apparently, not even hizbollah!!! :D
     
    #6 MadMax, May 13, 2004
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    OMG!!! Do you think they are watching right now???

    :D
     
    #7 GladiatoRowdy, May 13, 2004
  8. MadMax

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    shhhhh!!! dude! be cool!!
     
    #8 MadMax, May 13, 2004
  9. MacBeth

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    What the hell is that colour you're wearing? Is that maroon, for God's sake!?!?
     
    #9 MacBeth, May 13, 2004
  10. krosfyah

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    There you go MadMax. There was also an editorial in today's Chron outlining specific Muslin tenets of why the execution was not representative of Islam.

    So I am glad you were right on this.

    I will say I've seen a few "But"s thrown in. <no cheap puns please>. The Chron article talks about ending the cycle of violence.

    In interview on the news last night, when one engages in war with terrorists, acts of brutality are to be expected. He wasn't condoning it...but saying that it isn't surprising.
     
    #10 krosfyah, May 13, 2004
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    Judging by the posts of one or two posters here...I would not rule it out.
     
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  12. MadMax

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    what's that from?? sounds familiar...
     
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  13. MadMax

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    yeah...this is really heartening. very encouraging. good news. right is right...wrong is wrong. and it's awesome to see people stand up with integrity and call it out. if we had more of that, we'd have less of what we've seen with these iraqi prisoners and from al qaeda.
     
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    If so, it's purely accidental. Was just being a twit.
     
    #14 MacBeth, May 13, 2004
  15. MadMax

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    it was excellent, though! very funny! i assumed it was a movie line, i guess! :D
     
    #15 MadMax, May 13, 2004
  16. rimrocker

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    Let's not get too excited here...

    Here's a quote from the story...

    "The timing of this act that overshadowed the scandal over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners in occupation forces prisons is suspect timing that aims to serve the American administration and occupation forces in Iraq and present excuses and pretexts for their inhumane practices against Iraqi detainees."

    If you read their whole statement, it's clear they are more ticked off that the beheading might get in the way of the United States shooting ourselves in the foot with the prison thing and numerous other errors we've recently made. They don't want anything to come out that might stall the shift to anti-Americanism within Iraq and the ME.

    Somebody in Hezbollah has been reading their Lee Atwater.
     
    #16 rimrocker, May 13, 2004
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    That guy's brother is one of the best tacklers ever
     
    #17 NJRocket, May 13, 2004
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    #18 Buck Turgidson, May 13, 2004
  19. mulletman

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    i think theres an important distinction made in the article below. the people who did the beheading and many of those taking part in the uprising are not iraqis.
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    Iraqis Shocked by Beheading, Despair Over Violence

    http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5119272

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Most Baghdad residents on Wednesday condemned al Qaeda's beheading of a U.S. civilian in Iraq, but many said his death was just the latest atrocity in a cycle of violence that is driving them to despair.

    A Web site video showed a masked man cutting off the head of Nick Berg, a 26-year-old civilian, and said al Qaeda's leader in Iraq had personally carried out the killing in revenge for abuses against Iraqi prisoners.

    Berg went missing last month when dozens of foreigners were seized by guerrillas after Marines launched a crackdown in the city of Falluja. The Marine operation followed the killing and grisly mutilation of four U.S. security guards in the city.

    "The Americans killed hundreds in Falluja in retaliation for the mutilation of the four Americans and now those people are killing an American in retaliation for the torture of prisoners," said Arkan Mohammad, a cleric at Baghdad University.

    "Someone has to do something to stop the cycle of violence from going on and on."

    Even in the Baghdad Sunni Muslim stronghold of Adhamiya, where there is fierce opposition to the occupation, many residents were appalled by the decapitation of Berg.

    "We denounce this act. No-one can accept the killing of another human being in this horrible way," said Yassir Saleh, a 30-year-old barber. But he too pointed to a tide of violence that has swept the country since the fall of Saddam Hussein.

    "Sometimes I really can't understand the logic of what is happening, all the violence that I could have never imagined would take place in my country," he said.

    Many Iraqis say they oppose the U.S.-led occupation but also despise insurgents whose suicide attacks, mortar strikes and bomb blasts have killed far more Iraqis than Americans.

    Issa al-Khalidi, a 65-year-old pensioner sitting in one of the oldest coffeehouses in Adhamiya, also condemned the killing but looked around nervously as he did.

    "It's a brutal, inhuman act. As Muslims our religion prohibits us from committing such acts," he said.

    "People with their own interpretations of Islam are coming to this country and killing left and right, and the Americans are just providing them with the pretext to do so."

    But some of the city's poorer residents said they supported the killing, arguing it was acceptable retribution for the abuses the U.S. military had committed in Iraq.

    "This is the price they have to pay for what they have done," said 33-year-old Omar Khateb, a labourer.

    "It was done according to Islamic Sharia, and the Americans should know that there is a price they will pay for the atrocities they commit."
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    #19 mulletman, May 13, 2004
  20. AMS

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    Y'all should go check out local mosques and ask them what sermon the imam will be giving, if you are really interested.... and in dallas i belive they actually play the sermon on a radio station...
     
    #20 AMS, May 13, 2004
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